Urethane suspention bushes,good or bad ?, need input from those using these parts |
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Urethane suspention bushes,good or bad ?, need input from those using these parts |
porschetub |
Aug 13 2016, 12:39 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Was thinking of going to these for shock tower mounts and front sway bar bushes.
Know little about them so need info,have heard about noise issues but the fact they are less compliant than rubber should help? Yes I have more research underway,just floating the idea @ present,thanks |
ConeDodger |
Aug 13 2016, 01:46 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,606 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
What do you hope to accomplish?
Poly bushings tend to give you a harsh ride. No big deal in a purpose built car intended to corner like a carving knife but if you want your wife or girlfriend to actually ride in the car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) The only bushings I have found to give a great ride and precise cornering are Elephant Bushings or needle bearing bushings if you can find a set. |
Cairo94507 |
Aug 13 2016, 05:53 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,811 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I have had the hard poly-bushings in other cars and they made noise most of the time despite being properly lubed.
For my Six I went with Elephant Racing rubber bushings as they are one step better than the OEM rubber, but are still rubber. Of course, I have not driven the car to check out their actual performance - but they come highly recommended. MY goal is a good, comfortable, decent handling, street car. |
76-914 |
Aug 13 2016, 07:40 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,507 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
On my to do list:
Remove the urethane bushings, throw them in the trash and replace w/ Elephant Racing set up. |
Mike Bellis |
Aug 13 2016, 09:20 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
I don't mind the ride on mine. What bugs me is the noise. Especially if I come out of a driveway off camber, for the next few miles or days it will squeak really bad. Loud squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak. Every bump. Squeak, squeak, squeak. Not a high pitched squeak. A low pitched creaking squeak, squeak, squeak squeak... Almost sounds like the car is breaking in two pieces. Squeak, squeak, squeak.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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whitetwinturbo |
Aug 13 2016, 09:28 AM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
There are lubricant solutions to the uro-squeak (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) but the ride will still be harsher than stock.
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porschetub |
Aug 13 2016, 09:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Squeak,squeak,squeak......got it thanks guys ,everthing I have read is true (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
ER will be on my list for these,Chuck has been great to deal with in the past. |
ThePaintedMan |
Aug 13 2016, 10:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Weird. I used Eric's bushings available at PMB, followed the instructions, but 10000 miles on them and 10 hours of track abuse on them, and they never squeaked. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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boxsterfan |
Aug 13 2016, 11:15 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Weird. I used Eric's bushings available at PMB, followed the instructions, but 10000 miles on them and 10 hours of track abuse on them, and they never squeaked. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) You must be doing it wrong then. LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
ClayPerrine |
Aug 14 2016, 01:24 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,503 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I took out the urethane bushings on Betty's car, and replaced them with a set of Elephant bushings on both the front and rear. The car used to pop and squeak, now it rides nice. No real noticeable change in handling either. Maybe if you were trying to wring the last tenth out of the car on the AX course they would be better. But for street use the Elephant bushings are, IMHO, the way to go.
I have to do the rears on my car. I took out McMark's needle bearings and put in the Elephant bushings. There are lots of roads here that are a bit rough, and the needle bearings were beating the hell out of me. I kept them for the future, maybe I will put them in a track car someday. Remember this is my $.02. YMMV. |
tradisrad |
Aug 14 2016, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
I love my Elephant poly bronze bushings. It was hard to part with the $$ for them, but I think they are worth it. They really do provide a smooth ride.
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jack20 |
Aug 14 2016, 06:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 7-November 14 From: Granite Bay, CA Member No.: 18,099 Region Association: Northern California |
I installed Elephant rubber bushings up front and Elephant PolyBronze in the rear trailing arms. I tried the poly bushings first. Big mistake. Had to take them out and do it all over again with the PolyBronze. Couldn't stand the noise.
I couldn't ask for a better balance of ride vs handling. The car is just a pleasure to drive. Jack |
JmuRiz |
Aug 14 2016, 07:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,433 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Cracker |
Aug 15 2016, 09:36 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
If you are not tracking stick with stock bushings...done, quiet and easy. If you are tracking...skip to poly bronze or equivalent.
Tony |
jmitro |
Aug 15 2016, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 23-July 15 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 18,986 Region Association: None |
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rhodyguy |
Aug 15 2016, 01:22 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,085 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
The elephant poly bronze are just a tad more expensive than the rubber replacement ones they offer. For the money, I'd go (went) poly.
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Andyrew |
Aug 15 2016, 01:53 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Love love love my needle bearings.
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rhodyguy |
Aug 15 2016, 01:55 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,085 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
The sets Mike made?
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Andyrew |
Aug 15 2016, 01:59 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
That be the one's. Mike actually installed mine for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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rhodyguy |
Aug 15 2016, 02:16 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,085 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Nice. The 4 lug hubs for vented rotors were works of art.
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