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GeorgeRud |
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A friend of mine just moved down to Baton Rouge, LA last month, and had his cars in storage as they were having a large garage built at their new home. Of course, they were involved in the flooding up to the top of the windows. Besides his 914 2.0 and his Porsche tractor, he last a Jaguar XKE, Jensen Healy, 67 Ford Mustand, and a 35 Ford Coupe. At least their home is on higher ground and didn't flood so they are OK!
Has anyone ever had any luck resurrecting a flood car? Since his was nice and straight, I wondered if it could be stripped to a bare chassis then rebuilt? Same ? about he Porsche tractor. |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,958 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
I would take the insurance money and move on. The car, especially a 914, will never be right again, no matter what you do to restore it.
I'd make an exception and do my best for a real GT. Less than that, forgetaboutit |
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A friend of mine just moved down to Baton Rouge, LA last month, and had his cars in storage as they were having a large garage built at their new home. Of course, they were involved in the flooding up to the top of the windows. Besides his 914 2.0 and his Porsche tractor, he last a Jaguar XKE, Jensen Healy, 67 Ford Mustand, and a 35 Ford Coupe. At least their home is on higher ground and didn't flood so they are OK! Has anyone ever had any luck resurrecting a flood car? Since his was nice and straight, I wondered if it could be stripped to a bare chassis then rebuilt? Same ? about he Porsche tractor. The mechanicals of the car can be salvaged if they are dealt with quickly following the flooding. The issue with most cars is the wiring and the electronics. No way to really assure yourself that moisture hasn't done any damage to these items. Since the 914 is much less complicated than other cars, it is possible that the car can be resurrected. I would be more concerned about the XKE and Jensen Healy since they are much more valuable cars,and parts are relatively harder to come by for them. The Porsche tractor can be easily resurrected. I believe that you simply have to drain the water and then fill the block with oil to guard against corrosion. I would be devastated if this happened to my cars. But, nothing that money can't fix. Hopefully, he had full insurance on the collection. |
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I just got my friends 2012 Camry back up and running from the flood and will start on his 993 next week. He only had about 18 inches though. He was smart enough to disconnect the battery on the 993 so I hope his computers will be ok. With the Camry the air bag module is in the center console and it was full of water but I was able to take it apart and let it dry fully and it is working good now. The key to a flood car is you must take it down completely to let everything dry out. If not the upholstery will stink. If not the electronics will continue to short out or corrode. You also must ensure you have all new fluids if water entered the sumps. We got lucky with the Camry as the water was not higher than any of the vents to the trans or engine. If I can be of any help let me know.
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914's are kewl ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
It's hard to find straight cars. Strip the 914 down to bare bones. Build it again.
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,252 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
It's hard to find straight cars. Strip the 914 down to bare bones. Build it again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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it might be a good candidate for the e-coating process, the dipping is suppose to get everywhere. just need to remove air mufflers in the longs
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 1-August 12 From: the middle of the time before Member No.: 14,746 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() |
it might be a good candidate for the e-coating process, the dipping is suppose to get everywhere. just need to remove air mufflers in the longs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) this! I was thinking the same thing - dip strip & e-coat it! |
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,772 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Bows by could do a wiring harness, I think with the right amount of parts and a new engine it could be done, just money ....right?
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,808 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
It's hard to find straight cars. Strip the 914 down to bare bones. Build it again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Yo! |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,908 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
fresh water..ok salt water ..doitnow
Das Boot fllood 914 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=40075&hl= |
ThePaintedMan |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,887 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) save it. Every one of those cars should be stripped of their interiors as quickly as possible, fluids drained from the crankcases + transmissions, refilled and turned over by hand if nothing else. Get oil on all the internal surfaces as soon as possible, including in each cylinder. The next thing would be drying out the wiring looms, but not as time-sensitive as the upholstery and metal bits.
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Car Hoarder! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,408 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) save it. Every one of those cars should be stripped of their interiors as quickly as possible, fluids drained from the crankcases + transmissions, refilled and turned over by hand if nothing else. Get oil on all the internal surfaces as soon as possible, including in each cylinder. The next thing would be drying out the wiring looms, but not as time-sensitive as the upholstery and metal bits. Yep. Since that flooding was freshwater they absolutely can be saved. Anything that can hold water has to be taken out immediately Anything that is metallic needs to be dried out. Anything that s mechanical needs to be oiled. Take the insurance money and buy them back. |
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Fresh water, but muddy!
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NOLA 914 ![]() Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 30-May 03 From: New Orleans, LA Member No.: 758 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
I live here in Louisiana and I feel for your friend. I was lucky and my car was at my house in New Orleans during this event. New Orleans is dry (never high and dry) for this disaster. I drive through Baton Rouge quite often on the way to my lease property in Lafayette.
My boss had his 1970 Mustang completely flooded (over the roof) in Hurricane Katrina. He stripped the car to bare metal and restored it. He sold it a few years later for $40K. Here is the kicker...he let the insurance company total the car, then he bought it back with a salvaged title. If the car would have had a clean title, he could have gotten about $60K for it. He recommends that unless the car is rare (914-6, LE, etc) then take the money and get another car with a clean title to restore. I will PM you with my phone number to give your friend. I just finished restoring my car last year. If he needs parts, I have plenty. If he decides to part out the flood one, I am interested. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Lafayette, LA Member No.: 8,920 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Looks savable, but with lots of cleaning. Again if you or he needs help with these let me know. The 997 and 991 Porsche is the only model I have not yet worked on so I know Porsches. I have also restored many other makes including British cars. Am currently restoring a 1951 Jaguar XK120.
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If he can get those cars gone over soon it's always better than a flood car 8 months or a year after the fact.
I'd take a flood car project over a rust bucket any day. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 17-May 04 From: baton rouge, la Member No.: 2,075 ![]() |
I'd take Jim (zambezi) up on his offer to help. Jim is the first person I call whenever I have questions about anything related to any car. I've seen several cars he has restored in person, multiple old Porsches, Healeys, Jags, an old Corvette, etc.. He is a serious Porsche enthusiast who does really great work.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Sorry to hear of your friends collection.
Regarding rebuilding these cars, as suggested its best to focus on the more valuable ones. To completely rebuild these back properly.....you just need buckets of $$$$ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,257 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
It's not water alone that's the problem, it's water + time. I'd keep the cars(s) I wanted to spend immediate time on, and get the others to people who had immediate time to rescue them. Best of a bad situation, rescue the cars, make some friends in the process. Cash that chip in on another day when you can build your collection up again.
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