Decoding VIN - 1976 914 |
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Decoding VIN - 1976 914 |
pcarenthuz |
Jan 27 2017, 09:16 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-January 17 From: Annapolis, MD Member No.: 20,787 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'm going to look at an '76 914 tomorrow. I have the VIN but have been unable to decode it. I see the place on 914World to register a VIN but nothing to decode. Is there something and I'm simply missing it?
Apologies for the very green/newbie question. Pat Arnold |
altitude411 |
Jan 27 2017, 09:21 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
* OK better... when you had typed '86 I was like... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=52816 and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
Dave_Darling |
Jan 27 2017, 11:13 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The VIN will look like this:
4762900000 47 == 914-4 6 == 1976 model year 29 == Karmann factory 00000 == Series number within the 1976 model year. If the VIN starts with 475, it's a 75. If it starts with something else, post up and ask. --DD |
Chris H. |
Jan 27 2017, 11:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,031 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Yeah there's nothing else to decode from the VIN besides the year really since the 4 cylinder cars were all made at the same place and have the same model designation. For a '76 people get pretty excited if the number is higher than about 4000 because they only made about...what...4100 that year? Something like that. 4762904000 that is. There is another tag in the door jamb that will tell you the paint code which you can check against the codes listed here to see if it's the correct original color. All 1976 cars are 2.0L's. Although people claim to have seen a handful of 1.8's over the years, no one has produced one that came from the factory that way.
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Coondog |
Jan 28 2017, 01:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California |
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Dave_Darling |
Jan 28 2017, 03:04 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Note that the chassis number is not the same as the VIN.
--DD |
eitnurg |
Jan 28 2017, 05:00 AM
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Country Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Nairobi Member No.: 62 Region Association: None |
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pcarenthuz |
Jan 28 2017, 07:23 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-January 17 From: Annapolis, MD Member No.: 20,787 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
* OK better... when you had typed '86 I was like... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=52816 and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Yeah, I screwed up my very first post by talking about a 1986 914! I saw your "what the heck" or whatever that emoji is and knew I had messed up! So thank you and thank you. Pat Arnold Annapolis, MD, USA |
pcarenthuz |
Jan 28 2017, 07:26 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-January 17 From: Annapolis, MD Member No.: 20,787 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
And thanks to everyone else for the information. Much appreciated. The one I'm looking at is 01232. I have a nice older 911 but have never owned a 914 so this may turn out to be a great day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Pat Arnold |
altitude411 |
Jan 28 2017, 10:05 AM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
And thanks to everyone else for the information. Much appreciated. The one I'm looking at is 01232. I have a nice older 911 but have never owned a 914 so this may turn out to be a great day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Pat Arnold Best of luck to you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
worn |
Jan 28 2017, 02:41 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,156 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
And thanks to everyone else for the information. Much appreciated. The one I'm looking at is 01232. I have a nice older 911 but have never owned a 914 so this may turn out to be a great day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Pat Arnold You are gonna love the teen. I have a 911 and two 914s. The 914 is the better car, but I love both. |
pcarenthuz |
Jan 28 2017, 05:41 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-January 17 From: Annapolis, MD Member No.: 20,787 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I flew down to Winston Salem today from Wash DC. Needed to get some flying time anyway so it was a good day. The '76 914 I looked at was one advertised in Craigslist. In my opinion, the owner didn't represent the car well at all. The engine was recently overhauled by an apparently reputable shop but there were numerous other issues with the car. If it's appropriate for this forum, I can post more details. The guy was certainly nice enough but the car was pretty darn rough.
Pat Arnold |
altitude411 |
Jan 28 2017, 05:56 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Its far better to be a disciplined buyer than a regretful owner... You'll find the one.
What are you flying? |
Tom_T |
Jan 28 2017, 05:59 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
From what they're saying, there is no year identifier in the chassis number (unless it's the mystery "5" in the first one): so, apparently, the same chassis number(s) could/would be duplicated annually. Incorrect, surely? You are correct - you must use the VIN sticker's date to get the year - since any MY splits the calendar year from August XXXX to July XXXX+1. PS - the "mystery 5" is 95 for the Karmann Plant identifier, but they used 96, 97 to denote 100s or 200s in car number built that date - e.g.: 95+1 for 100, 95+2 for 200. PSS - Contrary to the chart, there were actually far more 914s built in 1972, 1973 & 1974 for the partial 72 MY & especially 73 & 74 MYs - so the 96 & 97 etc. are more common there, than in 75-76 MYs. . Pat - For the 76 MY - all 914's were 2.0s & built in 1975, since the Karmann plant converted to the 924 at the start of 1976, & the 912E was the fill-in model to the end of the 76 MY. So he just need to get the chassis number from the Karmann Plate on the driver door front jamb or stamped on the rear trunk floor near the back wall (both should match), then count the weeks of the year using the diagram above to get the build date (approx.). Color code will be in the top box on the Kamann plate. OP should also check that all VINs match on the door sticker, windshield frame plate, stamped on top of the passenger/R side wheel house top inside the front trunk, & on the plate on the Pass./R headlight box (IIRC the latter plate was left off of 76 MY). Print & take this 914 evaluation form with you: http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zTN_Gen_914CAF.pdf Also use Jeff's 914 website from where it came as a reference .... http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/ .... & at p914.com (also substitute .net & .org if some links won't work yet on p914). Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
pcarenthuz |
Jan 28 2017, 08:17 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-January 17 From: Annapolis, MD Member No.: 20,787 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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pcarenthuz |
Jan 28 2017, 08:19 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 27-January 17 From: Annapolis, MD Member No.: 20,787 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
@ Tom, super information. Thank you very much!
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altitude411 |
Jan 28 2017, 08:33 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Its far better to be a disciplined buyer than a regretful owner... You'll find the one. What are you flying? You've got that right! I fly a 1966 Piper PA-24-260B. Pat Arnold Sounds like your living life right my friend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Good luck w/your search. Keep us posted... |
Chris H. |
Jan 28 2017, 08:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,031 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I flew down to Winston Salem today from Wash DC. Needed to get some flying time anyway so it was a good day. The '76 914 I looked at was one advertised in Craigslist. In my opinion, the owner didn't represent the car well at all. The engine was recently overhauled by an apparently reputable shop but there were numerous other issues with the car. If it's appropriate for this forum, I can post more details. The guy was certainly nice enough but the car was pretty darn rough. Pat Arnold Good assessment. Run away from that one. If it doesn't feel right it's not the one for you. There are plenty more out there! |
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