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WTB - early brake pressure regulator |
mepstein |
Feb 2 2017, 08:37 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Want to buy, or trade for a part you need. Im looking for an early brake pressure regulator in good core condition that I will be able to use to have restored. (It can't be rusted beyond use please) I have a late model if you want to trade or other parts you might need. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Email mark@markepstein.net Thank you. |
914werke |
Feb 2 2017, 11:16 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,123 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Mark how are you ID'ing the early from the late?
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mepstein |
Feb 2 2017, 12:21 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I can show you the late so you know which one it's not. Thanks
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stugray |
Feb 2 2017, 12:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I have a couple, post your pic so we can tell early from late.
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mepstein |
Feb 2 2017, 01:12 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Late
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bdstone914 |
Feb 2 2017, 10:32 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,534 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
I probably have a couple if you need one. PET shows the break between early and late at VIN 474 291752.
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altitude411 |
Feb 2 2017, 11:38 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
So is this just a date code thing? early/late. Here are the early/late images from PMB site http://www.pmbperformance.com/914-brakes.html ( he uses the same photo for both early/late) and mine from my six and they all look the same as your photo... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
* except for your rust and my dirt/filth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
mepstein |
Feb 3 2017, 06:41 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
No, Eric may use the same picture but the two are different. Bruce/bdstone, can you dig up an early one?
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davep |
Feb 3 2017, 10:13 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,152 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
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GaroldShaffer |
Feb 6 2017, 11:31 AM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,623 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
Here are the two different styles. Haven't cleaned these up yet, but you get the idea.
Mark sent you a PM Attached image(s) |
bdstone914 |
Feb 6 2017, 11:47 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,534 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Looks like Gerald has you covered.
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mepstein |
Feb 6 2017, 11:51 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Garold - thank you. The effort you put into this was way more than any proffit you could hope to make but once again you help me anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Eric_Shea |
Feb 6 2017, 06:29 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Mark, the picture you have is of an "Early" not a late (T-fitting).
Here's the skinny, and, think "economies of scale" Early pressure regulators had a fluid inlet at the bottom and a fluid outlet at the top. A single inlet was fine but, the outlet now needed to go to the left and the right sides of the car. A brass "T" fitting with a banjo bolt was employed to do the job. The valve had always been bossed for multiple outlets but, only the one at the top had been tapped to 10x1. In Garold's picture above you can see the boss on the early regulator on the left (circled in green). Later pressure regulators were simply tapped on the top "and" now the back side facing the firewall. The right side line went into the back and the left side went directly into the top. This did away with the more expensive components (brass T fitting, banjo bolt and copper washers). You can see the later one with the same boss tapped to 10x1 on the right (circled in red). Eliminating the T was a cost saving measure. So... the down and dirty; early ones have the brass T, later ones do not. If your pressure regulator is missing you can tell by the VIN or, by your lines. Early ones have straight line ends that go directly into the T. Later ones have 90 degree bends at the end of the lines. |
mepstein |
Feb 6 2017, 06:47 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,309 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
One last question E - when was the transition to late?
I thought my '74 would have a late regulator on it but I guess it's an early one as well. |
bdstone914 |
Feb 6 2017, 07:33 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,534 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
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