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Fuel Injectors, What other cars used the same ones? |
beemie96 |
May 4 2005, 11:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 2,350 |
1971 1.7
I have an injector that is leaking gas. I've double checked the fuel lines, so i'm pretty sure it's the injector. So, I don't want to pay ~200 for a new one... I have a number of 'extra' ones lying around, but i'm not sure they even work. Any easy way to test them? I heard something about a 9v battery method... what do I look for there? Otherwise I'll have to hook them all up and start the car... see if they spit fuel... but that can get messy. Now, if I do in fact need a new one, and I want to hunt evilbay / etc, what other cars used the same injectors? Thanks! |
r_towle |
May 4 2005, 12:55 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
First off the whole set of injectors only costs $135.00
That is 34 per piece. What I would do is take them all out, soak them in a good quality FI cleaner...I use the whole bottle and leave them overnight fully imersed. Then, take them out and put them all back in the the fule harness, but do not put any of them into the intake manifold. I put them all into seperate glass jars (I use baby food jars) Take the coil wire off and turn the motor over for about 30-45 seconds. Then I measure the volume of fuel in each jar... If that passes, you might have a rubber fuel line leak...I mean the line that goes from the injector to the rail.. The original injectors have than line held on to the injector with a compressed fitting... Remove that hose and attach a new hose with a hose clamp and that shouldfix that leak. Good luck. Rich |
echocanyons |
May 4 2005, 01:03 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
Rich, please tell us your source for the injectors
Cheapest new injectors I have found for the 1.7 are 70-80bucks a piece. At 34$ I can afford to buy some spares. |
freezing14 |
May 4 2005, 01:04 PM
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freezing14 Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 21-June 04 From: brockville , Ontario, Canada Member No.: 2,233 |
hey at 34$ i want some spare too, tell us where,, flaps,, china???
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TravisNeff |
May 4 2005, 01:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
They can also leak between the plastic harness connector and the injector itself, gotta toss those ones.
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bondo |
May 4 2005, 01:12 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
When you do this, make sure you disconnect the low voltage side of the coil, not the high voltage wire going to the distributor. If you just disconnect the high voltage wire, the coil is still generating high voltage and a spark CAN jump right out of the end of the coil to one of the terminals (I've seen it happen). A big fat spark is a bad thing to have around a bunch of sprayed fuel. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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echocanyons |
May 4 2005, 02:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
The vw 411/42 CARS USE THE SAME d-jet and likely the same injectors.
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beemie96 |
May 4 2005, 02:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 2,350 |
I'm pretty sure Mine is leaking at the plastic harness connector. All new fuel line and connectors already, and I double checked the tightness of the clamps and the lines. It actually looks like fuel is leaking from the seam between the yellow top and the body.
Even $70. I'd go buy one. Can I get that locally? Is there a specific part number I could ask for, or do I need to just take one of the injectors to my FLAPS and match it up? Online : $135 @ pelican , $210! AA where else can i look? |
Joe Bob |
May 4 2005, 02:33 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
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beemie96 |
May 5 2005, 06:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 2,350 |
Well, of course I googled, MSN'd, froogled, and more. A little too much information coming back, and I hadn't found anything less than the 135 at PP. Thanks, though.
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beemie96 |
May 5 2005, 06:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 2,350 |
okay... i take that back... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) i did all those searches, but your query brought back better answers.
anyone know 'Direct Auto'? URL: http://store.yahoo.com/dpstore/fuel-inject...914-series.html I may order a couple of them from here. |
echocanyons |
May 5 2005, 08:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
They are rebuilt but not a bad deal
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Marlow |
May 5 2005, 08:28 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Manassas, VA Member No.: 1,027 |
I stumbled across DirectAuto yesterday, they sell "rebuilt" injectors. I would find out what was done to "rebuild" them cause there isn't a whole lot you can do to them (change screen, clean, and see if they work?). They claim a lifetime warranty -- but many people have had mixed results with "rebuilt" injectors.
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Cap'n Krusty |
May 5 2005, 08:32 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
VW T3 used 'em, and T4. Rebuilt injectors, which have tempted me more than once over the last 32 years of 914 wrenching, could be called "junk" if only they were that good. I'd avoid them like rust ....................... Save your money, go with new. The Cap'n
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beemie96 |
May 5 2005, 01:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 2,350 |
So... if I have three injectors that don't work, could I attempt to 'rebuild' them? or do you need special tools to take them apart? |
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Steve Thacker |
May 5 2005, 01:15 PM
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UMMMPH Yea Baby Yea ! UMMMPH Group: Members Posts: 1,089 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Pickerington, Ohio Member No.: 113 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I guessed on the year of your car "didn't read all of your post", although they should be close in price. I used the Sorensen brand in my 73 2.0 . They are a great replacement and work great.
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.as...r=Fuel+Injector My Vehicle: 1972 PORSCHE 914 H4 1.7 L... My ZIP Code: 43228 Fuel Injector For vehicle: 1972 PORSCHE 914 H4 1.7 Liter FI (change) 4 parts found. Description Availability * Price Buy GP Sorensen 8001108N See image and details for this item OE #0280150009; Multi-Port Injection 1 Year Replacement Warranty Ships in 1 day Weight: 0.3 lbs. $69.88 Niehoff Ignition 27517 Fuel Injector, Remanufactured: Seal Kit Required; D-Jetronic 3 Month Limited Warranty Ships in 5 days Weight: 2 lbs. $55.99 $5.00 core Niehoff Ignition 57517 Fuel Injector, New: Seal Kit Required; D-Jetronic; O.E. No. 022 906 031A 3 Month Limited Warranty Ships in 5 days Weight: 2 lbs. $79.99 Python Injection Inc. 633135 Fuel Injector: D-Jet 1 Year Limited Warranty Ships in 5 days Weight: 2 lbs. $54.99 $12.00 core |
beemie96 |
May 5 2005, 01:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 2,350 |
Okay, I ordered one of the Sorenson injectors. I'll let everyone know how that works!
Thanks all! |
echocanyons |
May 5 2005, 02:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
I know the pythons are rebuilds and it looks ike the neihoffs are offered new or rebuilt.
It doesnt state if the sorensons are rebuilt or not. Does anyone know? |
echocanyons |
May 5 2005, 02:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
Beemie what was the reason you ordered the sorenson over the neihoff?
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Mueller |
May 5 2005, 02:49 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I'm pretty sure the Sorensens are brand new |
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