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AN Hoses, Pain in the Ass |
Mblizzard |
Jun 10 2017, 06:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
I had forgotten what a pain it is to work with braided SS hoses. Looks awesome but what a bitch to work with.
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Krieger |
Jun 10 2017, 07:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,723 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Get or borrow a set of Koul Tools. Basically they are a small plastic funnel that you use to push the hose onto the fittings. They make it really easy with minimal to no punctures in your fingers.
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mepstein |
Jun 10 2017, 07:31 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,308 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Get or borrow a set of Koul Tools. Basically they are a small plastic funnel that you use to push the hose onto the fittings. They make it really easy with minimal to no punctures in your fingers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) big time! I bought a set and showed them to Russo who has done hundreds on race car builds (962 crew chief). He thought they were fantastic. I was about to order them from amazon but noticed they were sold by verocious motor sports, just 15 minutes up the road. The guys there said they sell a ton of them. |
Mblizzard |
Jun 10 2017, 07:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
I would have purchased these many years ago if only I had know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
Great info I did not know these were available. |
mepstein |
Jun 10 2017, 08:17 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,308 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Russo said the problem with using these is I will never have the pleasure of pushing stainless steel wire into my fingertips.
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Larmo63 |
Jun 10 2017, 09:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Even using the Koul clamps, building AN lines still can be tricky and injurous.
I'm glad I happened to see the 10-12-16 AN set and bought them. The vice jaws are a must also. |
porschetub |
Jun 10 2017, 10:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,704 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Even using the Koul clamps, building AN lines still can be tricky and injurous. I'm glad I happened to see the 10-12-16 AN set and bought them. The vice jaws are a must also. I went metric cause OP supplied most fitting and hoses ready to go ,bounced between elephant racing and Stoddard for fittings...an expensive mish @ the end Chuck give great service on the right hose. Don't really know if AN is a big saving because of adaptors ..maybe that's just me but don't like mixing parts on a metric car. S/S lines aren't required IMO so really don't use them as they have no real value in this application. |
VaccaRabite |
Jun 13 2017, 10:57 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,458 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I don't know how you are cutting the hose, but I found that a sharp hardened hose cutter DRAMATICALLY reduces the frustration and finger punctures that normally goes with putting AN hoses together. They do look really good once together.
Zach |
mepstein |
Jun 13 2017, 11:41 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,308 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I don't know how you are cutting the hose, but I found that a sharp hardened hose cutter DRAMATICALLY reduces the frustration and finger punctures that normally goes with putting AN hoses together. They do look really good once together. Zach 3' pneumatic tool with a thin cutting wheel. Wrap hose in tape. Takes 10 seconds. We just leave the wheel on the tool all the time so it's always ready and available. The nice thing about the koul tool is you can even use a hose with a frayed end. I just shove it in the tool with a little lube and the hose slides right into the fitting. It makes a novice like me, look like a pro. I had Ben build my tank with metric threads but ended up getting adapters to go A/N. it's so much easier than metric. The fittings are available everywhere and in every different style possible. The next car I do will have black fittings. I'm not a fan of the blue and red. I didn't know black was an option when I ordered what I have now. |
Andyrew |
Jun 13 2017, 12:02 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I had to use them for my fuel lines due to E85.. I agree.. PITA.
I spent the extra money on black fittings and black lines for my setup. Much prefer it. |
Mblizzard |
Jun 13 2017, 12:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
I don't know how you are cutting the hose, but I found that a sharp hardened hose cutter DRAMATICALLY reduces the frustration and finger punctures that normally goes with putting AN hoses together. They do look really good once together. Zach 3' pneumatic tool with a thin cutting wheel. Wrap hose in tape. Takes 10 seconds. We just leave the wheel on the tool all the time so it's always ready and available. The nice thing about the koul tool is you can even use a hose with a frayed end. I just shove it in the tool with a little lube and the hose slides right into the fitting. It makes a novice like me, look like a pro. I had Ben build my tank with metric threads but ended up getting adapters to go A/N. it's so much easier than metric. The fittings are available everywhere and in every different style possible. The next car I do will have black fittings. I'm not a fan of the blue and red. I didn't know black was an option when I ordered what I have now. Agree on the cut off wheel! Also I found that GOOD duct tape is a must to use on the cut area. The tighter you can pull it the better. May come back and do other fuel lines with the SS but I will need a few years so I can forget the punctured fingers! |
Andyrew |
Jun 13 2017, 12:31 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I used painters tape wrapped about 10 times then cut it with a cutoff wheel
Cut came out clean, but it didnt matter as the plastic inner (E85 gas line) required me to pull the stainless outer back about 3" then snip off about 1" of it... Huge PITA.. |
patssle |
Jun 13 2017, 01:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
Major PITA. It's not just the inserting into the connector but the cutting and the tightening. The entire process sucks!
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PanelBilly |
Jun 13 2017, 01:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,811 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I took mine to an industrial hose dealer who cut them to the right length and put the ends on for a couple of bucks.
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SirAndy |
Jun 13 2017, 01:34 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,670 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
That's why i use the blue rubber lines that have the metal reinforcement mesh inside the rubber.
Sooooo much easier to deal with ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Larmo63 |
Jun 13 2017, 11:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
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Mblizzard |
Jun 14 2017, 05:58 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
I don't know, after the first few hoses, I thought they were pretty fun to assemble. Like a big jigsaw puzzle. I use a cut-off wheel and don't even bother with tape. Just buzz right through them. There's a guy who likes sleeping on a bed of nails for sure! I agree practice makes it less painful but when you have not done it in a few years you have to repay the price for the experience you lost. |
restore2seater |
Jun 14 2017, 09:17 AM
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Future 914 copilot. Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 30-October 04 From: Dunlap,IL Member No.: 3,037 Region Association: None |
That's why i use the "blue rubber lines" that have the metal reinforcement mesh inside the rubber. Sooooo much easier to deal with ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) What type of hose are you referring to Andy? |
Dave_Darling |
Jun 14 2017, 12:32 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I believe he means something like this:
http://ph.parker.com/us/15551/en/compact-h...raulic-hose-436 --DD |
SKL1 |
Jun 14 2017, 10:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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