19" x 11 Porsche Carrera wheels with GT Flares, Will they fit the rear |
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19" x 11 Porsche Carrera wheels with GT Flares, Will they fit the rear |
Nacho |
Sep 24 2017, 08:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 31-December 16 From: So. California Member No.: 20,716 Region Association: None |
Hi everyone
I can get a really good deal on some Carrera wheels. I was wondering if they would fit my 914 project with GT flares? Rears are 19" x 11. Front 19" x 8.5 Thanks |
Dave_Darling |
Sep 24 2017, 10:39 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Only if the person who installed your flares put them on really, really, really wide. And even then, I don't know if the offsets will work.
Chances are very very good that the answer is "no". --DD |
mepstein |
Sep 25 2017, 05:33 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,325 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
No but even if they did fit, they would look silly on the car.
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Nacho |
Sep 25 2017, 07:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 31-December 16 From: So. California Member No.: 20,716 Region Association: None |
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McMark |
Sep 25 2017, 07:47 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
'Factory' flares are for 7s in the front and 9s in the rear. There are fiberglass versions made for 9s and 11s. Or do what I did on this car and widen steel flares to match your wheels.
Regardless of the big-wheel-debate, if you appreciate a lowered car, you can't make that work with 19" wheels. On 19" wheels you will be much higher up, and there's nothing (realistic) you can do about it. If you want to spend 100s of hours redesigning the suspension and body to create room, you could. But realistically a 914 with 19" wheel will look VERY high. Attached image(s) |
Nacho |
Sep 25 2017, 08:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 31-December 16 From: So. California Member No.: 20,716 Region Association: None |
'Factory' flares are for 7s in the front and 9s in the rear. There are fiberglass versions made for 9s and 11s. Or do what I did on this car and widen steel flares to match your wheels. Regardless of the big-wheel-debate, if you appreciate a lowered car, you can't make that work with 19" wheels. On 19" wheels you will be much higher up, and there's nothing (realistic) you can do about it. If you want to spend 100s of hours redesigning the suspension and body to create room, you could. But realistically a 914 with 19" wheel will look VERY high. Cool work making those flares wider! I figured 19"s would be to big and that is not the look I want. So do people using newer 911 wheels and smaller than 19's other than Fuchs only use fronts all the way around? |
Andyrew |
Sep 25 2017, 09:31 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Unless you stretch your tires pretty heavily I dont see them fitting
10s on the rear would be very tight with standard GT flares. I have about an inch more room than GT flares and I barely fit 18x10s with 295 tires. . I also painted my wheels black as to piggyback on what Mark said the car would look too tall. |
horizontally-opposed |
Sep 25 2017, 10:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,433 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
It's not the wheel diameter you need to think about—it's the tire's outer diameter, and Mc McMark is exactly right: Your car will end up sitting higher off the ground, and a +4 conversion (15-inch to 19-inch) is probably 1-3 steps too far due to the tire diameter.
For years, Porsche tires had an OD that, with few exceptions, remained very similar—whether it was a 185/70R15, 215/60R15, 205/55R16, 225/40R18, etc. Then came the move to 19-inch tires with the 997 and 20s with the 991—and the OD has been growing with the cars. A 914 on 15-inch wheels with 165/80R15s has a tire OD of 25.5 inches. A 997.2 Carrera on 19-inch wheels has a tire OD of 25.5 (front) and 26 inches (rear). A 991.2 Carrera on 19-inch wheels has a tire OD of 26.4 (front) and 26.9 inches (rear). So...997 19s will raise your 914 0.5 inch, while 991 19s will raise it an inch. Yes, you can lower the car to try to make up for that, but you have to go an effective inch lower in the suspension settings to achieve the same height on a 15, 16, 17, or 18 with factory tire sizes. You might be able to go ultra-ultra low profile on the tires, but that may be a recipe for other disasters, like bent or broken wheels. The tire sidewall will also be "squarer" on a 19-inch tire due to its super-low profile. That could create additional clearance issues. Bottom line, whatever the deal on the 19s is, you'll spend the savings trying to adapt them to the car. And tires won't be cheap... |
Andyrew |
Sep 25 2017, 11:07 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Fyi I run 35 series tires on the rear of my car and its still much taller than stock.
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SirAndy |
Sep 25 2017, 11:18 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,688 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a set of Fikse FM10's that i will eventually run on my car. They do require special extra wide flares, as McMark mentioned either in fiberglass or widened steel.
Front: 9x17 with 245-45 tires Rear: 11x17 with 315-35 tires (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1147068696.jpg) |
Chris914n6 |
Sep 25 2017, 12:16 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,341 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Or extend the spoiler and rockers down to fill in the air gap. The Sheridan spoiler is pretty deep.
Bigger diameter wheels also weight more, which will hurt braking. But a 914 weights 1000lbs less than the 997 so that much width is overkill anyways. 'Factory' flares are for 7s in the front and 9s in the rear. There are fiberglass versions made for 9s and 11s. Or do what I did on this car and widen steel flares to match your wheels. Regardless of the big-wheel-debate, if you appreciate a lowered car, you can't make that work with 19" wheels. On 19" wheels you will be much higher up, and there's nothing (realistic) you can do about it. If you want to spend 100s of hours redesigning the suspension and body to create room, you could. But realistically a 914 with 19" wheel will look VERY high. |
SirAndy |
Sep 25 2017, 12:19 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,688 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Bigger diameter wheels also weight more, which will hurt braking. Mine (posted above) are lighter than a stock 5.5" steel wheel, and that's including the tires on them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
whitetwinturbo |
Sep 25 2017, 08:19 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
...........go for it....BUT sometimes too much turns out to be "too much" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Elliot Cannon |
Sep 25 2017, 09:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
I have 17 inch wheels on mine (I really like them) and some people think even that's too big on a 914. Pishaaw! What do they know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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