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> Intake Manifold to Injector O Ring, What's the name of it and where to find?
1adam12
post Jan 8 2018, 02:18 PM
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I took my injectors out of my '72 1.7l over the weekend and found that the PO used RTV gasket sealant to seal off the #2,#1 fuel injectors (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Upon further inspection, I noticed that the stepped o-ring/grommets where missing. I purchased an injector o-rings set from my local auto store thinking that would be it but nope. Can someone please tell me what that o-ring/grommet is called and where I can purchase them?

It's placed in the bottom opening of the intake runners where the injector is installed.
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post Jan 8 2018, 02:42 PM
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Here's a link to pelican which has the small seal (the one you're referencing) and the large seal which goes around the wide part of the injector.

https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearc...n=injector+seal
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post Jan 8 2018, 02:42 PM
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Post up some pics,
I may have what you need.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:09 PM
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Thanks Gents! I'll check through Pelican.

Mark, I checked through your website first and didn't see anything but here's a pic of the piece. Looks like I'll have to replace all 4 since the existing ones are cracking.


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post Jan 8 2018, 03:16 PM
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If you decide to send out your injectors to be cleaned, mr injector replaces all the rubber parts in the $17.50 price.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:20 PM
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CuddyK I looked through Pelican and I didn't find it. Only found grommet plugs, gaskets and the upper and lower seals to the injector.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:20 PM
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If Mark / Mikey and 914rubber has these, def buy from them!
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 8 2018, 01:16 PM) *

If you decide to send out your injectors to be cleaned, mr injector replaces all the rubber parts in the $17.50 price.


Yeah that's most likely the avenue I'll need to go. Read up on your recent service from them over the weekend.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:22 PM
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Those are not type 4 injector seals. 914 seals do not have a lip.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:24 PM
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Actually, those are not seals. They are just spacers to hold the injector in place. The small ones are the actual seals.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Jan 8 2018, 01:22 PM) *

Those are not type 4 injector seals. 914 seals do not have a lip.


This grommet/seal actually installs in the injector port on the intake runner... well at least on my #3, and #4 injectors. It seemed that it was factory because the injectors fit much more snug and the grommet/seal fit flush in the base of the runner. I rather be 100% sure on this as it's on my set up and the PO used gasket sealant on the injectors that did not have this grommet.
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post Jan 8 2018, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Jan 8 2018, 01:24 PM) *

Actually, those are not seals. They are just spacers to hold the injector in place. The small ones are the actual seals.


That makes perfect sense. So I need to locate some injector spacers then?
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post Jan 8 2018, 04:27 PM
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https://www.bughaus.com/type_4_fuel_injectors_and_seals.htm
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post Jan 8 2018, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(1adam12 @ Jan 8 2018, 02:18 PM) *

I took my injectors out of my '72 1.7l over the weekend and found that the PO used RTV gasket sealant to seal off the #2,#1 fuel injectors (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Upon further inspection, I noticed that the stepped o-ring/grommets where missing. I purchased an injector o-rings set from my local auto store thinking that would be it but nope. Can someone please tell me what that o-ring/grommet is called and where I can purchase them?

It's placed in the bottom opening of the intake runners where the injector is installed.

Rock Auto has them real cheap
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalogRock Auto injector seals
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post Jan 8 2018, 06:32 PM
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Thanks folks! I'll order some through the recommended dealers.
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post Jan 10 2018, 01:29 AM
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Sorry didn't get to posting up, but looks like these are available, and inexpensive.
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post Jan 10 2018, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(1adam12 @ Jan 8 2018, 01:20 PM) *

CuddyK I looked through Pelican and I didn't find it. Only found grommet plugs, gaskets and the upper and lower seals to the injector.


The lower seals are the parts you are talking about. They hold the end of the injector in the intake runner pipe.

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post Jan 10 2018, 05:50 PM
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I think what's throwing me off is that the O-rings that I posted pics of looked nothing like the fuel injector lower seals that I just purchased. I'm just presently learning through someone else's ghetto rigging this 1.7l. Now it makes sense why the the #2 and #1 injectors had only RTV gasket seal sense the previous owner just scraped together whatever seals they could for the present injectors.

I'll be placing the new factory replacement upper and lower seals on my injectors tonight. I'm surprised I didn't see any fuel leakage. Well, One Fix At A Damn Time! Purchased car back in May and haven't even driven her yet.
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post Jan 10 2018, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(1adam12 @ Jan 10 2018, 04:50 PM) *

I think what's throwing me off is that the O-rings that I posted pics of looked nothing like the fuel injector lower seals that I just purchased. I'm just presently learning through someone else's ghetto rigging this 1.7l. Now it makes sense why the the #2 and #1 injectors had only RTV gasket seal sense the previous owner just scraped together whatever seals they could for the present injectors.

I'll be placing the new factory replacement upper and lower seals on my injectors tonight. I'm surprised I didn't see any fuel leakage. Well, One Fix At A Damn Time! Purchased car back in May and haven't even driven her yet.


They look nothing like the lower seals you purchased because the ones that were on the car had 40 years of pressure and heat from the heads applied to them. They all wind up looking like that eventually. The stepped shape is what they look like pressed in place, those ones have just been baked so long they no longer spring back.
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post Jan 10 2018, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(JamesM @ Jan 10 2018, 05:21 PM) *

QUOTE(1adam12 @ Jan 10 2018, 04:50 PM) *

I think what's throwing me off is that the O-rings that I posted pics of looked nothing like the fuel injector lower seals that I just purchased. I'm just presently learning through someone else's ghetto rigging this 1.7l. Now it makes sense why the the #2 and #1 injectors had only RTV gasket seal sense the previous owner just scraped together whatever seals they could for the present injectors.

I'll be placing the new factory replacement upper and lower seals on my injectors tonight. I'm surprised I didn't see any fuel leakage. Well, One Fix At A Damn Time! Purchased car back in May and haven't even driven her yet.


They look nothing like the lower seals you purchased because the ones that were on the car had 40 years of pressure and heat from the heads applied to them. They all wind up looking like that eventually. The stepped shape is what they look like pressed in place, those ones have just been baked so long they no longer spring back.



Thanks JamesM. Makes sense why they fit so perfectly in the heads. 40 year molding process!
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