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My 74 bumper rusted around the tits
I found out when I bumped it with my knee and it fell off and hit my foot So I bought an earlier titless bumper that is orange I'll be painting it satin black with a spray can What grit should I sand it with so the new paint gets some bite? Should I prime it? If so, what type of primer? Should I sand the primer? If so, what grit? Thanks Scott |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,188 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None ![]() |
make sure that you spray with worth black satin trim paint after thoroughly sanding with wet or dry sand paper with plenty of water about 400 grit if the bumper is smooth
My 74 bumper rusted around the tits I found out when I bumped it with my knee and it fell off and hit my foot So I bought an earlier titless bumper that is orange I'll be painting it satin black with a spray can What grit should I sand it with so the new paint gets some bite? Should I prime it? If so, what type of primer? Should I sand the primer? If so, what grit? Thanks Scott |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
thanks
the bumper is so smooth it is a shame to paint it I habitually go to too fine a grit, hence the question |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
How many cans should I buy to do both bumpers (have a replacement front too), rockers, both valences and a ducktail?
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 27-February 17 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 20,876 Region Association: None ![]() |
Hard to say without knowing what your goal is and what the orange bumper looks like now, but...
The best choice is to have a body shop refinish it. Second best, have the bumper sand blasted, Then do whatever body work is necessary, spray it with a couple of coats of catalyzed high build primer, sand with 400 dry (with a block where ever possible), then a coat of catalyzed sealer, then whatever color you have picked (wet on wet with the sealer). Third best, sand the bumper with 180 grit (with a block where possible), feather out any chips in the original paint, fill any dings and block them with 180, spray several heavy coats of rattle can high build primer (I like SEM products), sand with 400 dry (with a block), apply your rattle can color (I like SEM Trim Black) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 27-February 17 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 20,876 Region Association: None ![]() |
How many cans should I buy to do both bumpers (have a replacement front too), rockers, both valences and a ducktail? I did both my valences, the rocker covers, and the mesh in the engine grill. It took a quart of SEM Trim Black thinned 1/1 with urethane reducer...so 1/2 gallon of product. Applied with an HVLP gun. You'll go broke buying enough spray cans to do what you want to do. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
I have access to compressor and HVLP guns and can spray fairly well so that is a possibility
If I'm going to break out a gun, what can I use on the top? Spray cans I can use at home and do one piece at a time The car is a 30 footer, so I am not worried about perfection or long term durability as I'd like to repaint the car in the next 5 years or so and will readdress it then |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,970 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
I have access to compressor and HVLP guns and can spray fairly well so that is a possibility If I'm going to break out a gun, what can I use on the top? Spray cans I can use at home and do one piece at a time The car is a 30 footer, so I am not worried about perfection or long term durability as I'd like to repaint the car in the next 5 years or so and will readdress it then Rattle cans are so wasteful of paint that I think you will be way ahead with a quart - $45 of paint rather than 4 or 5 of the $20 rattle cans. You may want to freshen up your gauge panel, steering wheel and other small parts. |
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Don't use standard rattle can paint. It will chip and flake easily and, it will not wash well. Get any grime on it and the finish will change as you rub it off etc.
If you need to rattle can, call your local automotive paint supplier and ask if they have 2K cans with hardener. This will get you a proper hardened automotive paint in the spray can convenience. |
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,741 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
If you have a Tractor Supply near by; $19 qt Black, $16 pt reducer, $9 1/2pt urethane hardener. SEM has "Hot Rod Black" kit online for ~$50 which includes 1qt paint, 1/2 pt reducer, 1/2 pt hardener. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 10-December 10 From: Hampton, NH Member No.: 12,471 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
Oh and my Vitaloni's need to be painted too, and I want to black out the windshield and sail trim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Ridge Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 27-March 10 From: Live Free or Die Member No.: 11,513 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Don't use standard rattle can paint. It will chip and flake easily and, it will not wash well. Get any grime on it and the finish will change as you rub it off etc. If you need to rattle can, call your local automotive paint supplier and ask if they have 2K cans with hardener. This will get you a proper hardened automotive paint in the spray can convenience. NAPA sells this type of paint. It's pricey at $25ish/can but it comes out nice. I did my Westfalia's wheels with it. |
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Jackstands are my life. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,493 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
If you really want to rattle can it, assuming cheaply, then Rustoleum can be had locally and you can get more easily.
Down side is you can't spray real car paint over spray paint so it will all have to come off before the 'good' paint job. |
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