914-4 steering columns, Interchangeability |
|
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.
This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way. Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. |
|
914-4 steering columns, Interchangeability |
Johnjhort |
Jun 23 2019, 07:42 PM
Post
#1
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-June 19 From: Chicago Member No.: 23,244 Region Association: None |
Hi everyone
Are 914-4 steering columns interchangeable, can I swap in a later column and expect to 12 or 13 pin connections to work. |
mepstein |
Jun 23 2019, 07:47 PM
Post
#2
|
914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
|
Johnjhort |
Jun 23 2019, 08:05 PM
Post
#3
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-June 19 From: Chicago Member No.: 23,244 Region Association: None |
Ok thank you. My car is a 1970, what are my options
|
mepstein |
Jun 23 2019, 08:22 PM
Post
#4
|
914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
What is the problem with your column?
I think the 70 & 71 have the same mounting piece but different # of pins. One is 12 pin, one is 14.But I'm not 100% positive. @Chi-town might have a column from a parted car. |
Johnjhort |
Jun 23 2019, 08:27 PM
Post
#5
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-June 19 From: Chicago Member No.: 23,244 Region Association: None |
The ignition key assembly, the key with tumbler is bad. On my later 914’s it’s easy to remove the lock assembly but I’ve noticed on this 1970 the whole key assemble with steering wheel lock is really in there. If I try to pull on it the wires will break from behind the lock assembly.
|
Chi-town |
Jun 23 2019, 08:40 PM
Post
#6
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
70-71 use different everything compared to 72+
The wires do not pull out the bottom! If you want to swap to a later column you'll be doing some wiring as all the connectors are different. @tweet can probably help you |
Johnjhort |
Jun 23 2019, 08:47 PM
Post
#7
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 23-June 19 From: Chicago Member No.: 23,244 Region Association: None |
Ok thank you.
|
mepstein |
Jun 23 2019, 09:01 PM
Post
#8
|
914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The ignition key assembly, the key with tumbler is bad. On my later 914’s it’s easy to remove the lock assembly but I’ve noticed on this 1970 the whole key assemble with steering wheel lock is really in there. If I try to pull on it the wires will break from behind the lock assembly. That's a common problem with the early cars but that assembly is actually easy to remove. There's a procedure in a thread on this site. You remove the horn contact ring and a plastic spacer, press a little pin with an awl and pull out the lock assembly using the key as a puller. slips right out. I sent my lock to "tweet" on this site and he repaired the assembly and made a better key that took less effort to turn. @tweet |
SirAndy |
Jun 23 2019, 10:17 PM
Post
#9
|
Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
If you want to swap to a later column you'll be doing some wiring as all the connectors are different. If it only were that easy. I've done that swap and it involves a lot of cutting and grinding and swearing and then you still end up with completely incompatible electric connections. The later columns not only have different mounting, they also have a different depth, meaning you will have to customize the steering shaft (more grinding) to get a geometry that doesn't bind. (And no, the later steering shafts won't work). It's absolutely not worth it, would not do it again ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
914sgofast2 |
Jun 23 2019, 10:26 PM
Post
#10
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 623 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
I have a 1970 as well. I discovered that the turn signal is the same as a 1970 VW Bug. The ignition lock and switch is probably the same as a bug as well, although the wire color coding may be different on the electrical part of the switch.
|
914Sixer |
Jun 24 2019, 09:33 AM
Post
#11
|
914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The only straight swap is the 72-74 into a 75-76. Late columns were sourced from the VW Rabbit. You reuse the lock assembly
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 10th June 2024 - 04:45 AM |
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002 |
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community! We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ... |