2 gorgeous 914's for sale at the same time, Which is the better car? |
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2 gorgeous 914's for sale at the same time, Which is the better car? |
Ampex351 |
Apr 23 2020, 08:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-April 20 From: Roseburg, Oregon Member No.: 24,115 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am in the process of buying a '73 zambesi green 2 ltr for 10K and it will need approx. 2K in work. On the other hand, A guy contacted me about his Dad's one owner '75
white 1.8 ltr that he wants to sell. The white is $12K and is absolutely stunning. No issues of any kind. Perfect original paint. What the hell would you do? Choose the '73 2ltr or the '75 1.8ltr? What's the best points of both cars? Is the 1.8 THAT much slower? Worth less $$? Thanks guys! |
76-914 |
Apr 23 2020, 08:55 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,507 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Get the 75 if it has no known issues. The green car will need 2K in repairs you say. If that is "a fact" and there are no other hidden issues then the green car is the better deal and value. It is virtually impossible to access all it will need until it goes under the knife. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 23 2020, 08:59 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
'73 is the more desirable year of the two, green is more desirable than white. 2.0l more desirable than 1.7l. I'd stick with the green, but I'm also partial to green cars.
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tygaboy |
Apr 23 2020, 09:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,302 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Opinion: I'd say the 73 2.0 is more "desirable". Plus there's the whole big bumper thing with the '75.
I say get them both! You can always sell one and keep the one you like best! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Ampex351 |
Apr 23 2020, 09:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-April 20 From: Roseburg, Oregon Member No.: 24,115 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am in the process of buying a '73 zambesi green 2 ltr for 10K and it will need approx. 2K in work. On the other hand, A guy contacted me about his Dad's one owner '75 white 1.8 ltr that he wants to sell. The white is $12K and is absolutely stunning. No issues of any kind. Perfect original paint. What the hell would you do? Choose the '73 2ltr or the '75 1.8ltr? What's the best points of both cars? Is the 1.8 THAT much slower? Worth less $$? Thanks guys! Will they continue to go up in value equally? |
PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 23 2020, 09:02 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am in the process of buying a '73 zambesi green 2 ltr for 10K and it will need approx. 2K in work. On the other hand, A guy contacted me about his Dad's one owner '75 white 1.8 ltr that he wants to sell. The white is $12K and is absolutely stunning. No issues of any kind. Perfect original paint. What the hell would you do? Choose the '73 2ltr or the '75 1.8ltr? What's the best points of both cars? Is the 1.8 THAT much slower? Worth less $$? Thanks guys! Will they continue to go up in value equally? No, the '73 2.0l will be more desirable in the collector market. |
JamesM |
Apr 23 2020, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,915 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Is the 1.8 THAT much slower? Worth less $$? Thanks guys! The earlier 1.7s are "slower" the 75 1.8 is the "slowest" 914 built and yes it is a noticeable difference. How much the cars are worth is really dependent on a lot of things condition and originality having a lot to do with it. At 50 years old though you can pretty much assume ANY car in the 10-12k price range will need some level of work. either one could easily be hiding rust or shoddy repains. Pictures and knowing more specifics would help. As for long term performance, unless you are looking to keep it stock they can both get to the same place, just might take more money if you start with a 1.8... really all depends on what your goals are. |
BuddyV |
Apr 23 2020, 09:20 AM
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Robert Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 8-April 05 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 3,898 Region Association: Northern California |
Original owner and Original paint are two things that sound VERY nice if trying to sell down the road (and before you say that you do not plan to sell.... it happens). Big bumper cars used to be a NO-NO a few years ago.... now..... not such a big deal. You can always backdate and keep the fatties on the shelf. VERY simple.
Think about what is in front of you.... in this case, TWO cool cars..... and ask yourself which one might NEVER be available to you again. Yes, the 73 YEAR is more valuable..... but the other may be more SPECIAL. I have an original paint car. It is a unique detail. Obviously not a performance detail - but if the paint is original and NICE? Well, that might make this car more "valuable" than a car being manufactured in a certain year. OK... I could go back and forth on this one...... in short, pull the trigger on the one that you would KICK yourself for passing on. Good luck! (.... buy the original owner car!!!!) |
burton73 |
Apr 23 2020, 09:32 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,538 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Original owner and Original paint are two things that sound VERY nice if trying to sell down the road (and before you say that you do not plan to sell.... it happens). Big bumper cars used to be a NO-NO a few years ago.... now..... not such a big deal. You can always backdate and keep the fatties on the shelf. VERY simple. Think about what is in front of you.... in this case, TWO cool cars..... and ask yourself which one might NEVER be available to you again. Yes, the 73 YEAR is more valuable..... but the other may be more SPECIAL. I have an original paint car. It is a unique detail. Obviously not a performance detail - but if the paint is original and NICE? Well, that might make this car more "valuable" than a car being manufactured in a certain year. OK... I could go back and forth on this one...... in short, pull the trigger on the one that you would KICK yourself for passing on. Good luck! (.... buy the original owner car!!!!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I say the original paint car if it looks good. Rust is the big killer on these cars and repairs can cost a huge amount of money. Show them and we can tell you what we really think as they could be a POS. Also try to get a 914-world member to view them in person if you can Welcome to the 914world Bob B (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
burton73 |
Apr 23 2020, 09:33 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,538 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
2 posting sorry
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jaredmcginness |
Apr 23 2020, 09:41 AM
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... Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 12-June 19 From: Baltimore Member No.: 23,209 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
We need photos!
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ValcoOscar |
Apr 23 2020, 09:44 AM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,388 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California |
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ConeDodger |
Apr 23 2020, 09:55 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,605 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) My ‘75 2.0 looks sort of ‘73ish after some work... Attached thumbnail(s) |
Cairo94507 |
Apr 23 2020, 09:56 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,808 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
That's a tough call for sure. The '73, as already stated is I believe a more desirable MY. However, the $2K estimate for work needed is the area that concerns me. Rarely is it that easy to fix a dollar amount on work needed and we all know how slippery that slope can be.
Now, the '75 is still a desirable MY as even in CA it is exempt from smog inspections. Also, original owner and original paint is a huge draw. If the condition is as you say, I would likely go for the '75. Of course I would then do a bumper backdate (keep the BUBS) and 2056 engine build (keep the stock motor) with factory fuel injection and then talk to Ben about a full exhaust..... Either way, you will have a nice 914- green or white. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
siverson |
Apr 23 2020, 10:21 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
Both sound too good to be true. Nice 914s are worth much more than that now. Buy both? (or send them my way!)
-Steve |
StarBear |
Apr 23 2020, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
Would LOVE to have that tough choice - but then nowhere to park/store a 2nd or 3rd one anyway. One owner car has big advantage, but would go with the 73 2.0L (but then I love the Zambezi Green (like mine).
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Spoke |
Apr 23 2020, 10:54 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,986 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
'73 2L wins over '75 1.8L. Much difference in power. Without pictures and a close inspection, it's almost impossible to tell which to buy. Have you inspected the cars in person?
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Ampex351 |
Apr 23 2020, 11:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-April 20 From: Roseburg, Oregon Member No.: 24,115 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
'73 2L wins over '75 1.8L. Much difference in power. Without pictures and a close inspection, it's almost impossible to tell which to buy. Have you inspected the cars in person? I havent been able to see both cars in person as they are at a distance to me. My gut feeling is that I should stick with the green 2.0 for $10,000. From the info I have it's a nice car and '73's are a desireable year. I've seen a lot of junk for 12-15,000. And, it recently had a valve job and transmission work done. Overall the '75 is much prettier in that it is all orginal and VERY nice. But it's a '75 and it's a 1.8 and therefore not as good of an investment in my book. Now, to make things even more complicated, I just ran ran into an old guy the other day that has 5 914's in dry storage!!! He wants to sell them. Shit, I havent even been able to see those yet! When it rains it pours.. |
yellowporky |
Apr 23 2020, 11:34 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 427 Joined: 18-October 09 From: Martinez, Ca. Member No.: 10,948 Region Association: Northern California |
Opinions vary widely on what a good condition car is. One mans junk is another mans treasure. Could not be more true in the 914 world.
I wasted $300 on a flight from oakland to Downey ca back in the late 90’s to look at an excellent condition rust free 73’ 2.0. Before I even got out of the taxi I was pissed. Until you get your eyes and hands on it pictures and people can lie. Do not torment yourself go and see if the story matches reality. |
914sgofast2 |
Apr 23 2020, 11:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 620 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
The 1973 two liter cars are generally considered the most desirable of all four cylinder 914’s. They had the highest performance and biggest engine of the four cylinder cars. The later model 1.8 liter cars are probably the least desirable because they had the least power, lots of finicky smog controls, and the ugly big rubber bumpers. While the one owner 1975 sounds good, do you want to buy a mint condition undesirable car or the most desirable car that will always remain so? Are you buying a car to enjoy driving it or have it sit in your garage. Buying a low mileage, one owner collector car has serious drawbacks. Every mile you drive it, its value goes down. I bought a low mileage (48,000 original miles) , one owner, Jaguar XKE back in 2000, but I never drive it. I regret buying such a car in hindsight.
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