Looking to restore my 914 74 2.0 L, I dont know where to start from |
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Looking to restore my 914 74 2.0 L, I dont know where to start from |
Asheikh |
Apr 29 2020, 01:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 7-August 15 From: Pakistan Member No.: 19,037 Region Association: Pakistan |
Hi guys, I love THIS website ever since I came across it a few years back.
I want to start off by thanking all the members for creating such a great community and a special thank you to the people who took the initiative in starting it. ----------- I will try and keep this short. My name is Ali Sheikh (can call me Ali) I am 32 years old and I live in Lahore, Pakistan. My father went to Syracuse University in the 70s for his undergrad and that's when he bought a 914 74 2.0L in silver with black interior.after my father was done from university he brought the car back with him to Pakistan. all of his close ones loved his 914 and I got to hear a ton of great stories about the car from my father and all of the people that ever came across it. Anyhow the car ended up being neglected over the decades to the point where it ended up being scrap. the reason for the neglect was that the car started off with having engine heating problems and that too in a very short period of it being imported. not long after that, it ran into heavy engine problems which nobody understood at the time in the country. it was then parked around indoors and sometimes outdoors in different family garages. Slowly over the decades it just ended up to a point that there wasn't much left to it other than the body. someone also stole the engine while it was parked at one of the locations, probably an open car parking lot. the dilemma is that I love the car and have been wanting to fix it and don't know where to start from. Pakistan does not allow the import of used cars that are more than 4 years old. otherwise, I would have probably just bought a few of these. This is the only 914 in the country and their cant be another. unless the government decided to change the law which is unlikely to happen. there are many great classic car enthusiasts in the country and loads of classic cars but only 1 914. just been busy with all kinds of other bs in life. I have finally decided to put my money where my mouth is and go for it. I have 0 car welding or mechanical background, I have read many amazing builds here which got me very confused as to which setup to go for. the great subi conversions like the ankle-biter 914, to some crazy amazing Porsche conversions cayenne engines, cayman engines. the flat 6 conversions. all beautiful masterpieces. to each there own, I love the black 914 restomod canepa. I appreciate all of them. I have been reading up on builds for the past 5 years or more on and off and I just can't get enough of it. I have gotten the germs for the 914 now and I can not stop thinking about my 914. I have been in contact with dr.914, what a great man I highly respect him for his guidance and help. I believe if it weren't for him maybe 914s wouldn't be what they are today in some way or the other. cant place my finger on what exactly. I am pretty sure I can restore my 914 now with help from 914world and dr.914. Plus with the amount of will I have now, I think we will figure a way out. I need to find a great mechanically sound 914 74 2.0L or better. I will strip all parts from it, for my 914. I would love to build 914 6 Gt but don't have the budget to drop $100,000+ In one go to do so or the technical mindset. I will appreciate all the help I can find here. I plan on outsourcing parts of the build to others with experience in the business but trust me I wish I had the technical abilities to do everything my self like most of you guys. The good news is I got Porsche Pakistan to quote me on complete bodywork restoration, repaint, and reassembly of all the parts I provide. Surprisingly it's not that bad and I have asked the owner of Porsche Pakistan to give me a discount I will post that here once he gives me a new quote. I feel as if I need everyone on here to give me input on the build I will start sharing the current pictures of the project. I will also share some inspirational images, videos, and features that have inspired me for now and later. (what is the best way to share lots of pictures in a post) any help, information, and ideas will be highly appreciated kind regards Ali |
Asheikh |
Apr 29 2020, 01:41 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 7-August 15 From: Pakistan Member No.: 19,037 Region Association: Pakistan |
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914werke |
Apr 29 2020, 01:49 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,801 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Greeting & welcome Ali (although it sounds like you've been in lurk mode for quite a while). Since you cant import a (parts) car it seems your 2 options are buy one & pay to have it stored ..somewhere..where you can have the parts pulled you need, have them refurbished there, shipped & then install them to your chassis.
Or rather than buy a car & deal with those logistics, simply buy the particular components you need in either restored condition or as is, allowing you to restore or refurbish them. In either case your are in for a long & probably expensive process including: storage labor shipping and then the same in Pakistan in reverse... good luck |
Tdskip |
Apr 29 2020, 06:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,702 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Welcome Ali - we are happy you are here, please don't be shy with questions or if help is needed.
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PanelBilly |
Apr 29 2020, 09:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,844 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The world just keeps getting smaller. I think you need to figure out the best way to import the part needed. We have so many options and vendors here in the states, you just need to find the right combination to keep your costs down. Can you bring in used parts or are you limited to new ones. A freight forwarding company that would store up items from different sources and then crate them together into one shipment might be a smart choice. Maybe find someone in your city that imports products from the U.S. and add your crate to one of their containers.
And don't hesitate to ask where to buy a particular part. We all like to brag about finding the best deal. There's several guys here who can assemble a great engine and would source the case to build it with. Keep the photos coming |
ndfrigi |
Apr 30 2020, 12:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,956 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
@asheikh Looks like you have a very good solid roller compare to many 914 owners here who did major restoration. Maybe you can ask someone here in the US to find all the parts you need and ship them to you.
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Asheikh |
Apr 30 2020, 02:55 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 7-August 15 From: Pakistan Member No.: 19,037 Region Association: Pakistan |
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ndfrigi |
Apr 30 2020, 03:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,956 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
Thoughts on picking this up for a 914 6 conversion http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=344776 what other parts would I require to complete the job? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) that car is a running car with the 1.8 FI and should be pretty much complete car if u buy it. If the other member will have to pass. I owned that car as a project until a friend bought it from me after he helped me do some metal work on my 71 before. My friend did lots of metal work and I did help make the 1.8 FI run and then he drove the car for a while until he has to sell it. The seller now did more metal works like the wide fender. |
Asheikh |
Apr 30 2020, 03:50 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 7-August 15 From: Pakistan Member No.: 19,037 Region Association: Pakistan |
Really nice car the blue one also.
Unfortunately I am looking for 2.0L minimum deal and this is a 1.8L Thank you so much for the posting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Cairo94507 |
Apr 30 2020, 05:05 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,057 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Hi Ali - After looking at the pictures you posted I agree you are starting with what appears to be a pretty solid chassis. So at least that puts you a little ahead of the curve. I believe the best thing for you to do is to get the chassis in good shape all around.
Inspect the chassis to make sure you have no rust-through issues to deal with. Make sure all of the suspension mounting point are solid. Get a friend or maybe 2 friends to stand in the interior on the floorboard of the car and with both doors open, see if the chassis flexes up and down. Be careful, start with one person and if that's looks good, add another. I am thinking maybe 225 pound is enough to test the rigidity of the chassis so you know if you are in good shape or not. You can also check the area of the floorboard where the pedals are attached as that is another rust spot. Look at the entire floor of the car for rust-through holes. Pull the rocker panel covers off, the long covers that are below the doors that have the jack post holes in them. Inspect that area for rust as it is the most prone to rust. Of course check the engine compartment out looking specifically at the base of the firewall (the section between the engine and the passenger compartment) look along the bottom of that entire firewall for rust though as that is a typical problem. Then check the areas below the battery box on the right side of the car as you sit in the car, and then look on the left side too. Water tends to get trapped in those areas when the drain holes get plugged up. Look in both the front and rear trunks for rust-through. The front trunk is going to be prone to rust all around the weather seal channel where the hood seals closed. Also another bad spot is the area of the brake fluid reservoir. In the rear trunk, in addition to the weather strip channel, check the trunk floor where it joins the rear panel in which the taillights are housed. That area where the rear panel and the trunk floor meet is a very common rust area. Of course when you are working in the rear trunk that would be the time to find a repair panel section for the area where someone has added a cover/box, maybe that is where they put the battery. Pull that off and see if the area is cut out or not. That is not a typical body modification that I have seen. Another spot prone to rust on these is all around the windshield where it meets the cowl. The area where the windshield wipers are attached. Also along the sail panel (roll bar) where it joins the rear quarter panels and there is usually a piece of trim at the base. That and the area where the door handles recess is where you place your hand to open the door handle. Rust is common in that pillar and area. Oh, yeah... one more place is the end of the quarter panel up high by the tail lights. Porsche packed that area with foam and it absorbs water and causes rust. That foam should be romped and never reinstalled in my opinion. Your chassis looked good in the pictures, but I always think the most expensive and difficult part of restoring these cars is tackling the old chassis to make it safe, string and reliable for all the work that will come after the chassis is solid. Cheers and pace yourself. Michael |
FlacaProductions |
Apr 30 2020, 05:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,775 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
Welcome @Asheikh - I've been to Lahore a number of times and would have loved to seen a 914 running around! Glad you're here - I hope this project works out...
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Olympic 914 |
May 1 2020, 12:57 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
Why the odd boxed section it the rear trunk? Was it a V8 conversion?
Probably should move this thread to the Garage. |
Asheikh |
May 1 2020, 03:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 7-August 15 From: Pakistan Member No.: 19,037 Region Association: Pakistan |
hi guys thank you for the positive feed back
panelbily - shipping parts out of the usa would be relatively easy since I go lots of stuff imported a couple of moths back through a freight company like you have suggested. I love your car its a beauty please upload a more indepth video review for it please. FlacaProductions - great to hear that you have been to Paksitan. Maybe next time you visit there will be one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ndfrigi & Cairo94507 - plan on getting complete body work done in the coming weeks contemplating flares or narrow body. narrow body has grown on me quite a bit, but it took a long time do so. what are your thoughts on body type? saw some of the RD panels i might buy those if required. I am very ocd about the body work hence looking for the person in town. (will be posting more on this later) Olympic 914 - some elders in the family had a go at brining it back on the road with some engine swap along time ago. i have gotten it dissasbmled since and plan to restore it back to its original form. I am still contemplating on the look and figuring out costs of different engine setups. I have seen some RHD conversions also which are intresting but then again its something i dont know much about since there werent many converions builds being covered. Atleast I havent seen a build on a conversion. I like the 5 guage 911 dash swap that a few memebrs have done. I would like to consider that but dont know the pros and cons yet. I dont want to compromise on the build. My budget for parts for the first phase is 20,000 usd and if i phase the build out i could buy the remaing parts in a second phase. dont know if thats a better way to go around building a better car for a daily driver. I could buy a running 914 and strip all the parts in america or dubai. Super confused everyones building all sorts of custom stuff here. A 2006 cayman can be bought for 11700 usd. so why do parts alone cost so much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I want it to be super realiable for long distances and high inclines. Hopefully take it to the northern areas of Pakistan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I need help in deciding what would be the best thing to do. i dont ever plan on selling the car. |
Asheikh |
Feb 9 2021, 11:45 AM
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Asheikh |
Feb 9 2021, 11:49 AM
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Asheikh |
Feb 9 2021, 11:51 AM
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Asheikh |
Feb 9 2021, 11:54 AM
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Asheikh |
Feb 9 2021, 11:56 AM
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Asheikh |
Feb 9 2021, 12:01 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 7-August 15 From: Pakistan Member No.: 19,037 Region Association: Pakistan |
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Asheikh |
Feb 9 2021, 12:04 PM
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