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brcacti
post Aug 22 2020, 08:52 AM
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Hello, will I need to take the steering wheel off to get the odemeter guage out for repair?
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post Aug 22 2020, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(brcacti @ Aug 22 2020, 07:52 AM) *

Hello, will I need to take the steering wheel off to get the odemeter guage out for repair?


No you can probably wiggle it out but it is a lot easier to remove the wheel. Plus its only 1 big nut.
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post Aug 22 2020, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(brcacti @ Aug 22 2020, 10:52 AM) *

Hello, will I need to take the steering wheel off to get the odemeter guage out for repair?

No, it's not necessary. The gauge should be able to pop through easily. Unplugging some of the wires behind can be somewhat challenging for larger hands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Aug 22 2020, 09:24 AM
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you will also need to free the odometer reset cable
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post Aug 22 2020, 10:54 AM
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Is there a good how to repair on this?
Looks like I need to do this job as well this winter.

IIRC it's a nylon worm screw that has worn out, anyone making the repair part(s)?
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post Aug 22 2020, 11:02 AM
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Mark, I followed this "how to" a few years back. It held for a while then the nylon gear let go again. I believe we can get new gears at Pelican.

How to:
https://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/1...eter_Repair.htm

Gear chart:
https://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images...al/odogears.htm
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post Aug 22 2020, 11:12 AM
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Hi again, I have taken it out without removing the steering wheel, I had the wheel off once to put the stock one back on did not really want to take it off again. I disconnected all the parts BUT had one problem I did not see where this long cable went into when I pulled it out see pictures. Can anyone offer assistance on where it plugs back into?Attached Image
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post Aug 22 2020, 11:17 AM
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That is the trip meter re-set cable for resetting the trip meter to zero. It goes into a hole in the bottom of the dashboard. It’s missing the re-set knob, washer and retaining nut.
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post Aug 22 2020, 11:29 AM
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Oh oops, YES I think I know exactly where it goes now, will go out and check. THANK YOU for that bit of information.
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post Aug 22 2020, 11:37 AM
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Don't attempt to reset the odometer when you're moving - it'll strip the plastic gear...
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QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Aug 22 2020, 10:37 AM) *

Don't attempt to reset the odometer when you're moving - it'll strip the plastic gear...

OK, so is that why the odometers don't work any longer because maybe the former owner tried to reset the odometer while moving along on the road? If I am not mistaken there may be multiple problems with these old odometers or do you think most are caused from the problem you brought up?
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QUOTE(brcacti @ Aug 22 2020, 01:40 PM) *

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Don't attempt to reset the odometer when you're moving - it'll strip the plastic gear...

OK, so is that why the odometers don't work any longer because maybe the former owner tried to reset the odometer while moving along on the road? If I am not mistaken there may be multiple problems with these old odometers or do you think most are caused from the problem you brought up?

It's likely the pot metal gear on the shaft inside. It's a common problem but the fix is not difficult. Check out the Pelican article as linked above. I followed the guide exactly and the repair was straightforward.
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QUOTE(Nojoah @ Aug 22 2020, 12:04 PM) *

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QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Aug 22 2020, 10:37 AM) *

Don't attempt to reset the odometer when you're moving - it'll strip the plastic gear...

OK, so is that why the odometers don't work any longer because maybe the former owner tried to reset the odometer while moving along on the road? If I am not mistaken there may be multiple problems with these old odometers or do you think most are caused from the problem you brought up?

It's likely the pot metal gear on the shaft inside. It's a common problem but the fix is not difficult. Check out the Pelican article as linked above. I followed the guide exactly and the repair was straightforward.

Yes I have heard that but posssibly the part where the square fits into it might need replacing too ? I think Pelican guarantees it after they fix it so maybe I will go there. If I crimp the pot metal gear it might stop again after 6 months because I have less experience.
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post Aug 22 2020, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(brcacti @ Aug 22 2020, 07:52 AM) *

Hello, will I need to take the steering wheel off to get the odemeter guage out for repair?

Unnecessary to remove steering wheel. But would aid. You should have enough clearance to pull it out a few inches and then unscrew the speedometer cable. It’s also wise to diagram the electrical terminals.
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post Aug 22 2020, 05:27 PM
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Bob most likely the damage was caused by a trip meter reset while moving,replacement gears can be sourced on ebay but that was a while back if I remember they were like $20 +,however if you don't do the work yourself to replace it it can be a reasonably expensive repair if you farm the work out.
Considering the cost of a good used unit replacement may be a better option but you may want to have it read the correct current mileage of your car.
What is actually wrong with your gauge?,have you checked the cable as it could be broken internally,you can test that by carefully turning the square drive CCW @ the gauge end and if you feel resistance it is fine,if it continues to turn it is broken.
Try that and report back cheers.
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QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 22 2020, 04:27 PM) *

Bob most likely the damage was caused by a trip meter reset while moving,replacement gears can be sourced on ebay but that was a while back if I remember they were like $20 +,however if you don't do the work yourself to replace it it can be a reasonably expensive repair if you farm the work out.
Considering the cost of a good used unit replacement may be a better option but you may want to have it read the correct current mileage of your car.
What is actually wrong with your gauge?,have you checked the cable as it could be broken internally,you can test that by carefully turning the square drive CCW @ the gauge end and if you feel resistance it is fine,if it continues to turn it is broken.
Try that and report back cheers.

HELLO, thanks for your input, I turned the reset and it works fine back to zeros the upper dial is stuck on 99502 miles total on car. The cable going into the MPH must be good as the speedometer was working fine. I am assuming that the pot metal gear is loose inside, that is what many say goes wrong with these.
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post Aug 22 2020, 05:42 PM
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I also followed that Pelican article. Mine was the pot metal gear which was easily crimped back to a tight fit. After being happy with my repair, a member here told me the crimp could loosen after a bit and it is a good idea to reinforce with a dab of epoxy. I didn't do that but did not crimp my bezel back completely on the gauge so it would be easier to get back in if needed. The repair itself is quite simple though.

Also, on removing the wheel to get the gauge out. As you already learned, it isn't necessary EXCEPT if you have spent hours cleaning and repainting gauge bezels and the cluster frame. Ask me how I know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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QUOTE(brcacti @ Aug 22 2020, 07:41 PM) *

QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 22 2020, 04:27 PM) *

Bob most likely the damage was caused by a trip meter reset while moving,replacement gears can be sourced on ebay but that was a while back if I remember they were like $20 +,however if you don't do the work yourself to replace it it can be a reasonably expensive repair if you farm the work out.
Considering the cost of a good used unit replacement may be a better option but you may want to have it read the correct current mileage of your car.
What is actually wrong with your gauge?,have you checked the cable as it could be broken internally,you can test that by carefully turning the square drive CCW @ the gauge end and if you feel resistance it is fine,if it continues to turn it is broken.
Try that and report back cheers.

HELLO, thanks for your input, I turned the reset and it works fine back to zeros the upper dial is stuck on 99502 miles total on car. The cable going into the MPH must be good as the speedometer was working fine. I am assuming that the pot metal gear is loose inside, that is what many say goes wrong with these.


Mine just failed at 98500-ish, I know for sure I didn't hit the trip reset as it's cable has been seized the whole 20 years I've owned my teen.
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Aug 22 2020, 05:35 PM) *

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QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 22 2020, 04:27 PM) *

Bob most likely the damage was caused by a trip meter reset while moving,replacement gears can be sourced on ebay but that was a while back if I remember they were like $20 +,however if you don't do the work yourself to replace it it can be a reasonably expensive repair if you farm the work out.
Considering the cost of a good used unit replacement may be a better option but you may want to have it read the correct current mileage of your car.
What is actually wrong with your gauge?,have you checked the cable as it could be broken internally,you can test that by carefully turning the square drive CCW @ the gauge end and if you feel resistance it is fine,if it continues to turn it is broken.
Try that and report back cheers.

HELLO, thanks for your input, I turned the reset and it works fine back to zeros the upper dial is stuck on 99502 miles total on car. The cable going into the MPH must be good as the speedometer was working fine. I am assuming that the pot metal gear is loose inside, that is what many say goes wrong with these.

Yeah, I have heard it said that so many fail around 100,000 miles.
Mine just failed at 98500-ish, I know for sure I didn't hit the trip reset as it's cable has been seized the whole 20 years I've owned my teen.

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QUOTE(bbrock @ Aug 22 2020, 05:42 PM) *

I also followed that Pelican article. Mine was the pot metal gear which was easily crimped back to a tight fit. After being happy with my repair, a member here told me the crimp could loosen after a bit and it is a good idea to reinforce with a dab of epoxy. I didn't do that but did not crimp my bezel back completely on the gauge so it would be easier to get back in if needed. The repair itself is quite simple though.

Also, on removing the wheel to get the gauge out. As you already learned, it isn't necessary EXCEPT if you have spent hours cleaning and repainting gauge bezels and the cluster frame. Ask me how I know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)



Not to mention the top of your steering column housing, toss a rag over it first.
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