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3.6 install questions..., What are the biggest hurdles? |
speed metal army |
Oct 23 2020, 07:41 PM
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Waiting for the rain to stop... Group: Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 4-September 10 From: PNW Member No.: 12,137 Region Association: Canada |
Ive read some thing about the intake being a bit of a pain.. What is the solution? Also any other things that would be specific to 3.6 in a 914 would be cool.
The wiring, exhaust, and oil lines/cooler I have no issue with but the mounting and clearance.. I just haven't gone there before. Pictures are always awesome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Steve |
Oct 23 2020, 07:54 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,606 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
The key is finding a 95, there is no room for the varioram. Other than that, you will need an adapter flywheel. Single pulley and modify the six sheet metal. Also a power steering block off. Check Patrick Motorsports web site for all the goodies.
Check out Sir Andy’s build http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=44700 |
speed metal army |
Oct 23 2020, 09:19 PM
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Waiting for the rain to stop... Group: Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 4-September 10 From: PNW Member No.: 12,137 Region Association: Canada |
The key is finding a 95, there is no room for the varioram. Other than that, you will need an adapter flywheel. Single pulley and modify the six sheet metal. Also a power steering block off. Check Patrick Motorsports web site for all the goodies. Check out Sir Andy’s build http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=44700 I have a 95.. And all the other stuff! I read somewhere the intake didn't fit without mods... Untrue?? |
Chris914n6 |
Oct 23 2020, 10:31 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,328 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If that is the plastic intake I might know a guy willing to trade for a 92? aluminum one for his 911 swap.
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Luke M |
Oct 24 2020, 06:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,377 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
IIRC Clay used the 993 intake on his build? Maybe you have to rotate the intake to fit into the 914 engine bay. Let me see if I can locate his thread.
Here you go. Go to page 9 for the intake issue but the engine install is a great read. Clay covers a lot of the issues you will run into. I was planning on a 3.6 build but I couldn't find a 3.6 that wasn't 15 grand that also needed a rebuild. So 3.2 to 3.4 EFI I went with. I know Andy runs the 901/914 trans but it's up to you if you go the 915 route. I had a 915/916 Bott trans recently done by PMS. Get ready to drop some coin there. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=279084 |
bahnzai |
Oct 24 2020, 07:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 26-July 06 From: Columbia, SC Member No.: 6,509 Region Association: South East States |
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bahnzai |
Oct 24 2020, 07:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 26-July 06 From: Columbia, SC Member No.: 6,509 Region Association: South East States |
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Marv's3.6six |
Oct 24 2020, 09:57 AM
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Actual member 7" Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Huntington Beach, Ca. Member No.: 3,165 Region Association: Southern California |
Quote: I have a 95.. And all the other stuff! I read somewhere the intake didn't fit without mods... Untrue??
Untrue, fits fine. Mine is a 95 as others pictured here with intake installed backwards, I also chopped off all the unneeded plastic bungs on the intake plenum. If I were you I would look at the install as a system, such as how to properly handle the upgraded HP and torque. Myself I have an upgraded close ratio 915 trans and used Wevo trans mounts and the Patrick Motorport weld in front engine mount as the stock Porsche motor mount is insufficient. Just sayin. Attached thumbnail(s) |
SirAndy |
Oct 24 2020, 10:08 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,670 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I used an elbow from a Mustang to get the air intake at the right angle so i didn't have to cut anything.
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Maltese Falcon |
Oct 24 2020, 03:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,692 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
@speed metal army
These 1.75" od long tube headers are avail for your 3.6L requirements, and take the MSDS >>914World member discount. Thx Lawrence for the cool pic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 24 2020, 03:41 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,503 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I used a stock 964 intake, but flipped the throttle body around to face the front. It is tight but it fits. If you take the cam that drives the power steering pump and machine off the PS drive, you can put a plug in the back of the cam carrier and not have to worry about it leaking.
There is also a thread on the bird board on how to backdate the 964/993 engine to use the earlier engine mounted oil cooler. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...here-s-how.html I couldn't do it and use the adapter plate for the cayman trans too. So I ended up making a metal close off to put in place of the oil cooler. Good luck with your 3.6 install. Let me know if I can help/offer BTDT advice. Clay |
East coaster |
Oct 24 2020, 06:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,688 Joined: 28-March 03 From: Brigantine, NJ Member No.: 487 Region Association: None |
Flipped the intake on mine and it fit just fine.
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Maltese Falcon |
Oct 24 2020, 08:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,692 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
When we built the 3.6 vRam conversion, we used the Patrick Motorsports ign. switch mod to eliminate the PATS feature on the 3.6 DME.
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mb911 |
Oct 25 2020, 07:33 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,872 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I may have heat exchangers ready for these in the not to distant future.
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