Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Plastic tubing from charcoal canister that runs through rocker
john77
post Apr 27 2021, 02:09 PM
Post #1


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 621
Joined: 21-February 14
From: Los Angeles
Member No.: 17,027
Region Association: Southern California



I'm almost finished flaring my car and when I removed the tubes from the charcoal canister that thread through the rocker supports back into the engine bay the old brittle plastic pretty much disintegrated in my hands.

I'm assuming I can use any similar ODi plastic tubing, does anyone have any suggestions on what they've used to replace this?

And, do they really need to thread all the way underneath the rocker into the engine bay?

I'm guessing they routed them that way so any fumes were released behind the cabin rather than in front of it, so the driver didn't get a lung full.

But given I never drive with my roof on I'm not too bothered about that, so other than that, are there any cons to me running much shorter tubes into the front fender and terminating them there?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
JeffBowlsby
post Apr 27 2021, 03:09 PM
Post #2


914 Wiring Harnesses
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,524
Joined: 7-January 03
From: San Ramon CA
Member No.: 104
Region Association: None



The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing.

Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Mikey914
post Apr 27 2021, 03:40 PM
Post #3


The rubber man
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 12,677
Joined: 27-December 04
From: Hillsboro, OR
Member No.: 3,348
Region Association: None



I have the tubing and the factory hoses needed to replace back to the engine compartment. All 10 hoses $64 fits any car with charcoal canister in the front. Shown as 1-10 Plastic shown in gray
Neatly packaged and labeled.
Just starting to go into production on these but if you call Kenzie at the office she can get it out.
Mark


Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
john77
post Apr 27 2021, 10:25 PM
Post #4


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 621
Joined: 21-February 14
From: Los Angeles
Member No.: 17,027
Region Association: Southern California



My car's a 73 that was converted into a 6, which makes sense of why they went nowhere now you've explained what they're there for... at least I think.

On my car they were just routed into my engine bay and connected to nothing.

Does that mean I can delete them all together?



QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Apr 27 2021, 02:09 PM) *

The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing.

Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ClayPerrine
post Apr 28 2021, 09:32 AM
Post #5


Life's been good to me so far.....
***************

Group: Admin
Posts: 15,502
Joined: 11-September 03
From: Hurst, TX.
Member No.: 1,143
Region Association: NineFourteenerVille



QUOTE(john77 @ Apr 27 2021, 11:25 PM) *

My car's a 73 that was converted into a 6, which makes sense of why they went nowhere now you've explained what they're there for... at least I think.

On my car they were just routed into my engine bay and connected to nothing.

Does that mean I can delete them all together?



QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Apr 27 2021, 02:09 PM) *

The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing.

Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system.




You should hook them back up. It will keep the fuel smell down.

Hook one of the tubes to the fan shroud on the six, the other one into the air cleaner. And you have to hook them up correctly. The airflow through the canister has to go the right way.

Clay

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
bob
post Apr 28 2021, 09:48 AM
Post #6


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 146
Joined: 8-January 03
From: Va.
Member No.: 109
Region Association: None



Does anyone have a picture where the tube terminates on an original 914-6 ? (all the California sixes I've seen had the canister, but I don't recall how it terminated in the engine compartment)

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
john77
post Apr 28 2021, 12:13 PM
Post #7


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 621
Joined: 21-February 14
From: Los Angeles
Member No.: 17,027
Region Association: Southern California



Thanks @ClayPerrine

I'll have to wait until I'm back in front of my car to check this out.

Does anyone have pictures of these connections on a 6?


QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 28 2021, 08:32 AM) *

QUOTE(john77 @ Apr 27 2021, 11:25 PM) *

My car's a 73 that was converted into a 6, which makes sense of why they went nowhere now you've explained what they're there for... at least I think.

On my car they were just routed into my engine bay and connected to nothing.

Does that mean I can delete them all together?



QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Apr 27 2021, 02:09 PM) *

The two tubes on the early cars circulate engine fan powered air to/from the charcoal canister mounted above the fuel tank. Terminating them in the fender well does nothing.

Another solution would be to mount the canister in the engine bay like the mid-74-76 cars did, but you will need a small diameter tube running through the center tunnel to carry fuel vapor to the engine bay make a functional system.




You should hook them back up. It will keep the fuel smell down.

Hook one of the tubes to the fan shroud on the six, the other one into the air cleaner. And you have to hook them up correctly. The airflow through the canister has to go the right way.

Clay

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
moldygreg
post Jul 27 2021, 03:20 PM
Post #8


Stay Golden
**

Group: Members
Posts: 135
Joined: 13-December 12
From: Seattle
Member No.: 15,253
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Apr 27 2021, 02:40 PM) *

I have the tubing and the factory hoses needed to replace back to the engine compartment. All 10 hoses $64 fits any car with charcoal canister in the front. Shown as 1-10 Plastic shown in gray
Neatly packaged and labeled.
Just starting to go into production on these but if you call Kenzie at the office she can get it out.
Mark


@mikey914 --- ^ emailed you today and Mackenzie says you don't carry the above. Is this correct?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Mikey914
post Jul 27 2021, 09:57 PM
Post #9


The rubber man
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 12,677
Joined: 27-December 04
From: Hillsboro, OR
Member No.: 3,348
Region Association: None



Kind of. Yes I’ve been building “early” expansion tank with charcoal canister in the front. They are just not listed up yet.
Mark
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
SirAndy
post Jul 27 2021, 10:06 PM
Post #10


Resident German
*************************

Group: Admin
Posts: 41,669
Joined: 21-January 03
From: Oakland, Kalifornia
Member No.: 179
Region Association: Northern California



QUOTE(john77 @ Apr 27 2021, 09:25 PM) *
Does that mean I can delete them all together?

Don't ...

Deleting the expansion tank and charcoal canister from my car was the single most stupidest thing i've ever done to my car. And i've done a few stupid things to it.


Without a working evap system, every time you have more than 1/2 a tank of gas, the fumes from the overflow will go straight into the cabin. Enough to make you and your passenger nauseous every time you turn a corner.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
willieg
post Jul 27 2021, 11:35 PM
Post #11


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 132
Joined: 13-August 18
From: Pleasant Hill
Member No.: 22,389
Region Association: Northern California



I used 3/8” aluminum tubing, purchased from Summit Racing. Easy to bend and I ran the lines through the rocker panels to the engine bay.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 1st June 2024 - 05:31 PM