Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Power Bleeder - Looking for recommendations
RiqueMar
post Aug 16 2021, 12:12 PM
Post #1


Enrique Allen Mar
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,169
Joined: 28-August 08
From: San Diego, CA
Member No.: 9,478
Region Association: Southern California



Hi Everyone

Looking for recommendations on brake bleeders / power bleeders. What have you got, where did you get it, and do you like it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
GregAmy
post Aug 16 2021, 12:39 PM
Post #2


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,311
Joined: 22-February 13
From: Middletown CT
Member No.: 15,565
Region Association: North East States



The HF vac one is surprisingly useful...

https://www.harborfreight.com/pneumatic-air...-kit-57057.html
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
mepstein
post Aug 16 2021, 12:46 PM
Post #3


914-6 GT in waiting
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 19,315
Joined: 19-September 09
From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE
Member No.: 10,825
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



Motive power bleeder. Order on Amazon.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
anderssj
post Aug 16 2021, 01:31 PM
Post #4


Dog is my copilot...
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,664
Joined: 28-January 03
From: VA
Member No.: 207
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 16 2021, 02:46 PM) *

Motive power bleeder. Order on Amazon.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

and it works great on a variety of European cars in addition to the 914 (Volvo 240s, Volvo S80, Audi 5000CSTq)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
mb911
post Aug 16 2021, 01:33 PM
Post #5


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 6,883
Joined: 2-January 09
From: Burlington wi
Member No.: 9,892
Region Association: Upper MidWest



Motive for me as well. Bought mine from fcp euro. Great price and free shipping
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Wyvern
post Aug 16 2021, 02:03 PM
Post #6


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 324
Joined: 7-October 15
From: San Francisco (East Bay)
Member No.: 19,245
Region Association: Northern California



I made mine from a garden sprayer, added a pressure gauge .
Purchased a revivor cap . 10lbs is all that needed (just keep an eye on revivor level)

High tech pressure bleeder
Attached Image

Ultra high tech fluid capture system
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
rjames
post Aug 16 2021, 02:37 PM
Post #7


I'm made of metal
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,955
Joined: 24-July 05
From: Shoreline, WA
Member No.: 4,467
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



Motive power bleeder. That worked just ok until I got speed bleeders installed on the calipers and then brake bleeding became easy, whether I was doing a just routine fluid flush, or filling the system after replacing the MC (without bench bleeding).


User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Justinp71
post Aug 16 2021, 02:47 PM
Post #8


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,584
Joined: 11-October 04
From: Sacramento, CA
Member No.: 2,922
Region Association: None



I like the speed bleeder idea.

I have a compressed air powered vacuum pump I found online works real well. It works like that harbor freight one in concept but much more compact. Found it on facebook for $35. For what ever reason it won't work on a hydraulic clutch though.


It's a different version of this, makes good suction-
https://www.amazon.com/YSTOOL-Pneumatic-Ble...245&sr=1-19
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
914Toy
post Aug 16 2021, 04:02 PM
Post #9


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 718
Joined: 12-November 17
From: Laguna beach
Member No.: 21,596
Region Association: Southern California



Basic decision is: pressurizing your system at the reservoir vs. pulling a suction at each caliper. I have found a pressure system is reliably easier.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yeahmag
post Aug 16 2021, 04:07 PM
Post #10


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,422
Joined: 18-April 05
From: Pasadena, CA
Member No.: 3,946
Region Association: Southern California



I also use a Motiv, but I use it dry. Gotta be a bit careful doing it this way, but it makes clean up easier and the hoses last longer. Just keep an eye on the fluid level in the reservoir and top up frequently.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
90quattrocoupe
post Aug 16 2021, 07:47 PM
Post #11


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 208
Joined: 4-November 16
From: Long Beach, CA.
Member No.: 20,561
Region Association: Southern California



I use Motiv. Since most of my cars are VW based, I have adapted a stock lid. I drilled a hole and epoxied in a dual barb fitting.
I put a small extension on the barb that is inside the reservoir. When you released the pressure, it sucks about an inch of the fluid back up. This keeps all the fluid that would normally be all the way up to the cap, lower. No clean up except the bleeder.

Greg W.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Jamie
post Aug 16 2021, 08:04 PM
Post #12


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,035
Joined: 13-October 04
From: Georgetown,KY
Member No.: 2,939
Region Association: South East States



QUOTE(rjames @ Aug 16 2021, 12:37 PM) *

Motive power bleeder. That worked just ok until I got speed bleeders installed on the calipers and then brake bleeding became easy, whether I was doing a just routine fluid flush, or filling the system after replacing the MC (without bench bleeding).

Motive has always been my go-to bleeder, and I always use it dry to facilitate clean-up. I'm about to install Speed Bleeders on my 914, but couldn't source them for my Cayman? Sources told me that they weren't compatible with the aluminum calipers on the Cayman? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
930cabman
post Aug 17 2021, 05:03 AM
Post #13


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,146
Joined: 12-November 20
From: Buffalo
Member No.: 24,877
Region Association: North East States



I was just having a discussion a few days ago at our local "annual family PCA get together". One dude swears by both pressure(max 10 psi at the fluid reservoir) and vacuum at the bleeders. I have tried the vacuum with little success and the pressure with little success. Next time I will try both.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
stownsen914
post Aug 17 2021, 05:47 AM
Post #14


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 916
Joined: 3-October 06
From: Ossining, NY
Member No.: 6,985
Region Association: None



I tried speed bleeders once and had a bad experience with them. They seemed to suck air past the threads into the caliper as I pumped the brakes, instead of pulling fluid from the reservoir. Obviously this made it impossible to bleed the system. I lost a day at the track sorting that out. Luckily I'd brought the stock ones with me. Put them back, and voila all good again. I won't use them again.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
branston
post Aug 17 2021, 06:57 AM
Post #15


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 89
Joined: 17-October 12
From: Michigan
Member No.: 15,053
Region Association: Upper MidWest



I just received my motive, $58 shipped, bought directly from Motive. Be sure to buy the European version, SKU is MP-0100. I can confirm the enclosed cap fits my Porsche fluid reservoir.
I'll be using it this week and will report back on its functionality!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
VaccaRabite
post Aug 17 2021, 09:43 AM
Post #16


En Garde!
**********

Group: Admin
Posts: 13,465
Joined: 15-December 03
From: Dallastown, PA
Member No.: 1,435
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



QUOTE(anderssj @ Aug 16 2021, 03:31 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 16 2021, 02:46 PM) *

Motive power bleeder. Order on Amazon.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

and it works great on a variety of European cars in addition to the 914 (Volvo 240s, Volvo S80, Audi 5000CSTq)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
And they sell an attachment for american stuff too.

Zach
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
iankarr
post Aug 17 2021, 02:14 PM
Post #17


The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,481
Joined: 22-May 15
From: Heber City, UT
Member No.: 18,749
Region Association: Intermountain Region



Here's a video I made using the motive. I recently added speed bleeders and that definitely helps the process. I can pump the pedal without a helper....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymHHD6uKhfc
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
branston
post Aug 18 2021, 08:24 PM
Post #18


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 89
Joined: 17-October 12
From: Michigan
Member No.: 15,053
Region Association: Upper MidWest



QUOTE(branston @ Aug 17 2021, 07:57 AM) *

I just received my motive, $58 shipped, bought directly from Motive. Be sure to buy the European version, SKU is MP-0100. I can confirm the enclosed cap fits my Porsche fluid reservoir.
I'll be using it this week and will report back on its functionality!


I got to bleed the brakes today using the Motive Power bleeder, Frankly, I'm impressed!. I used it on my 912E as I'd replaced the master cylinder, the 914 has a similar. However, I didn't use it per the instructions, using it dry. i topped up the reservoir with fresh DOT3, pressurized the bleeder with the intention only to push out the old fluid. It worked so well, I just topped up the reservoir before bleeding each corner, I pumped the empty power bleeder like crazy to get 5-10psi and opened each bleeder in turn, topping up the reservoir between corners.

The result, a good hard pedal with no pumping, completed alone! I'm sold on this thing. Just a word of warning. my 912E has a reservoir overflow, piped to under the front bumper, I couldn't figure out why brake fluid was dripping under the front apron until I realized I needed to clamp the 6mm flex line. Duh. My 914's brake fluid reservoir doesn't have this overflow connection.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 9th June 2024 - 01:59 PM