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> VW/Audi/ Porsche Cargo ship blaze, Crew has been rescued / Ship + cargo loss
Maltese Falcon
post Feb 17 2022, 03:59 PM
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Just checked this news out today...Cargo ship in the Atlantic looks like a huge loss of Porsche, Audi & VW's. Crew has been rescued...looks like a total loss and an Eco mess for now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Feb 17 2022, 04:16 PM
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The fire reportedly started in the cargo hold. Perhaps a bad Taycan battery?
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post Feb 17 2022, 04:32 PM
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From the smoke I'd say it is some of those clean burning VW diesels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Feb 17 2022, 04:45 PM
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Imagine the fire risk with our 914s transatlantic shipping back in the '70s; each cars underside factory sprayed with cosmoline (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Feb 17 2022, 04:51 PM
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As if a Porsche was not expensive enough right now!
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post Feb 17 2022, 04:56 PM
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Knowing Porsche, they will probably be marketing the salvageable vehicles as "Commemorative Disaster Editions".

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post Feb 17 2022, 04:59 PM
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Glad the crew got off safe, what a mess for the env.
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post Feb 17 2022, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(Big Len @ Feb 17 2022, 05:16 PM) *

The fire reportedly started in the cargo hold. Perhaps a bad Taycan battery?

100% agree. Almost certainly a battery fire
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post Feb 17 2022, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Feb 17 2022, 05:21 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Len @ Feb 17 2022, 05:16 PM) *

The fire reportedly started in the cargo hold. Perhaps a bad Taycan battery?

100% agree. Almost certainly a battery fire


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post Feb 17 2022, 05:32 PM
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How often does a car cargo ship sink? This is the second one for Porsche in 3 three years.
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post Feb 17 2022, 09:45 PM
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Is this one of them supply chain things?
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post Feb 17 2022, 10:18 PM
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How often does a car cargo ship sink? This is the second one for Porsche in 3 three years.



one a few years ago was a toy ship. small specialist cargo vessel.

this one, looking at the pics will be a big fugen fire, its a serious roll on roll off car ship.

i see them down at the docks here when i take a spin on my favourite "race track".
(you would have to have good sea legs to work on one, the top of these things is way up in the air - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) ) i've seen them sail past the our navy chopper carriers and they make the navy ships look like rubber ducky in the bath tub.



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post Feb 17 2022, 11:35 PM
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The great news is they got the crew off the vessel, and there are (ahem) more pressing matters just now.

Still stinks for everyone involved, on both ends of that route.
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post Feb 18 2022, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Feb 17 2022, 10:45 PM) *

Is this one of them supply chain things?

Sure is….. Now for big Insurance who’s too big to fail can bail out the ship owner and Volkswagen group..
Just like The insurance groups settled for Remington. Never went to court never was questioned. The insurance companies decided the outcome of a trial.
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post Feb 18 2022, 08:38 AM
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Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud?
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post Feb 18 2022, 11:21 AM
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Companies are privately chartering ships to bypass the current backlog through the normal shipping process. It might have been a direct, less than full shipment.
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post Feb 18 2022, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(mate914 @ Feb 18 2022, 08:38 AM) *

Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud?
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Good eye Matt. The headline stating it was full of thousands of vehicles just doesn't add up, unless they were Matchbox or Hot Wheels vehicles.

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post Feb 18 2022, 01:04 PM
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That could be a stock picture. Glad the crew is off. I would assume the smoke would be a lot darker.
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post Feb 18 2022, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(lesorubcheek @ Feb 18 2022, 12:25 PM) *

QUOTE(mate914 @ Feb 18 2022, 08:38 AM) *

Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud?
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Good eye Matt. The headline stating it was full of thousands of vehicles just doesn't add up, unless they were Matchbox or Hot Wheels vehicles.

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i wouldn't conclude that yet.
ro ro ships ride high and use ballast to adjust for stability.
in the photos i have seen she appears to be listing giving the appearance it might be riding high.

they don't sail riding high because they are empty or half full ship.
they use ballast to set themselves up for the load and for stability to a pre set level.

if it is riding high that would point to a problem other than fire or being half empty.

she is built to carry 4000 cars - vw has said close to 4000 cars on board. its hard to know if news reports are accurate.
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post Feb 18 2022, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Feb 18 2022, 11:20 AM) *

QUOTE(lesorubcheek @ Feb 18 2022, 12:25 PM) *

QUOTE(mate914 @ Feb 18 2022, 08:38 AM) *

Look at the water line on the ship. I think that ship is empty. Look at any large ship and you will see a water line for safety. Insurance fraud?
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Good eye Matt. The headline stating it was full of thousands of vehicles just doesn't add up, unless they were Matchbox or Hot Wheels vehicles.

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i wouldn't conclude that yet.
ro ro ships ride high and use ballast to adjust for stability.
in the photos i have seen she appears to be listing giving the appearance it might be riding high.

they don't sail riding high because they are empty or half full ship.
they use ballast to set themselves up for the load and for stability to a pre set level.

if it is riding high that would point to a problem other than fire or being half empty.

she is built to carry 4000 cars - vw has said close to 4000 cars on board. its hard to know if news reports are accurate.

I'm curious about location? Ship might not be damaged enough to sink, then recovery becomes an even bigger problem.
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