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Clutch Pedal, Felt wrong...? |
jim_hoyland |
Mar 19 2022, 06:03 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,328 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
When I let out the clutch pedal, it makes a "creaky" noise are it comes up and a feeling. Some friction accompanies the clutch return.
First noticed this when I couldn't easily start off in1st. IIRC, the pedal cluster is less than 10 years old. Where should I start ? |
ndfrigi |
Mar 19 2022, 06:11 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,933 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
Good morning Jim! Try to apply some WD40 on your bushings of your pedal and see if the creaky noise will be gone. If not, maybe your clutch cable need replacement.
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stownsen914 |
Mar 19 2022, 06:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
Could be bushings need lube as suggested, or bushings are worn/disintegrating.
Any chance you just replaced the clutch cable? I accidentally wrapped it around the throttle cable tube once while replacing - that made for a weird feeling clutch! |
mlindner |
Mar 19 2022, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,533 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Disconnect the clutch cable and see if pedal works OK, no sound or friction. Then onto the next, cable, trans plastic wheel etc.
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jim_hoyland |
Mar 19 2022, 07:24 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,328 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Clutch cable replaced two years ago; pedal worked fine until recently. I believe the bushing is bronze.
Found this 2016 thread on the same issue, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=50499&st=0 |
76-914 |
Mar 19 2022, 08:12 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,513 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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bob164 |
Mar 19 2022, 08:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 10-February 18 From: SoCal Member No.: 21,877 Region Association: Southern California |
Jim,
I can come over and help tomorrow sometime, text or call. Bob |
jim_hoyland |
Mar 19 2022, 09:24 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,328 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
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davenorcal |
Apr 3 2022, 10:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 5-June 21 From: Northern California Member No.: 25,605 Region Association: Northern California |
Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose. Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel? |
ndfrigi |
Apr 3 2022, 10:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,933 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose. Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel? What others did is just remove the shifter to get access to the clutch tube and they U shape clamp with screw (offcourse you will get 2 holes towards the driver side for the screw/nut. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=274079 |
JeffBowlsby |
Apr 3 2022, 10:59 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,548 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
U-clamps are a hack repair. Remove the shift lever, clamp and plug weld through the tunnel side. Put a #2 Phillips in the tube to control blow through of the weld.
https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zTN_Trans_C...hTubeRepair.jpg |
jim_hoyland |
Apr 4 2022, 05:12 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,328 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose. Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel? What others did is just remove the shifter to get access to the clutch tube and they U shape clamp with screw (offcourse you will get 2 holes towards the driver side for the screw/nut. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=274079 I like this approach.Cars still in the shop though, so Im kinda out of the loop |
71six |
Apr 4 2022, 06:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 4-July 03 From: Fitzwilliam,NH Member No.: 884 |
Spot weld on clutch tube came apart. Probably the front weld. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I just discovered the same thing has happened to my car. What tipped me off was the shift linkage was moving okay until I push in the clutch which causes the shift handle’s range of motion to be reduced. After inspection using the limited number of holes in the center floor tunnel it looks like just the front weld has come loose. Has anyone come up with a way to surgically secure the cable tube? I really don’t want to cut an access hole in the center floor tunnel? What others did is just remove the shifter to get access to the clutch tube and they U shape clamp with screw (offcourse you will get 2 holes towards the driver side for the screw/nut. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=274079 I like this approach.Cars still in the shop though, so Im kinda out of the loop I had a similar issue on my original 914-6 and it turned out to be the clutch cable deflection roller was failing, replaced it and all is well now. |
gereed75 |
Apr 4 2022, 08:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,261 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
Mine squaks too and does not come out smooth.
Not sure what is meant by "clutch cable deflection roller". Is this referring to the one mounted back on trans? |
Mikey914 |
Apr 4 2022, 01:19 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,679 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Mine squaks too and does not come out smooth. Not sure what is meant by "clutch cable deflection roller". Is this referring to the one mounted back on trans? Yes that is the one. The OE one was a nylon. We made them from Delrin, and inexpensively. $16 everyday price with the new bushing too! https://914rubber.com/clutch-cable-deflection-roller-1-1 Attached thumbnail(s) |
burton73 |
Apr 4 2022, 01:57 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,558 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
U-clamps are a hack repair. Remove the shift lever, clamp and plug weld through the tunnel side. Put a #2 Phillips in the tube to control blow through of the weld. https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zTN_Trans_C...hTubeRepair.jpg What I did on my 6 #41 Bob B |
davep |
Apr 4 2022, 02:39 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,159 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Yes, a creaking sound is very often a failing weld on either end of the tube. I think the front end fails first, followed by the firewall end.
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IronHillRestorations |
Apr 4 2022, 04:20 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,732 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Do you have problems grinding gear changes, particularly going in 1st or reverse? Because of the tension on the clutch cable it can transmit noises.
Starting front to back, it could be: clutch pedal bushings roll pin on the pedal pivot shaft broken front cable trunion broken clutch cable tube pulley, or pulley bushing rear cable trunion throw out fork cup bushing for TO fork throw out bearing |
Root_Werks |
Apr 5 2022, 02:33 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,338 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Jim,
My clutch pedal also creaks when coming back up. Turns out it's just my knee so I'm no help. -Dan |
jim_hoyland |
Apr 5 2022, 03:38 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,328 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Do you have problems grinding gear changes, particularly going in 1st or reverse? Because of the tension on the clutch cable it can transmit noises. Starting front to back, it could be: clutch pedal bushings roll pin on the pedal pivot shaft broken front cable trunion broken clutch cable tube pulley, or pulley bushing rear cable trunion throw out fork cup bushing for TO fork throw out bearing No grinding during gear changes. Thanks for the list.At first I thought the sound/friction emanated from the pedal assembly. It’s not old, and BS assured me the bushings are brass. Cars at my local shop waiting it’s turn. |
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