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911 Mirrors on a 914? |
GeorgeKopf |
Jun 15 2022, 01:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 9-February 21 From: Princeton, NJ Member No.: 25,186 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Is it a thing to use period correct 911 mirrors on 914s?
Part#: 911-731-013-10 Are these larger than the 914 mirrors? Does anybody know if they fit the same bolt hole pattern? Thanks. George |
jim_hoyland |
Jun 15 2022, 02:25 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,467 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Is that an OEM part ?
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GeorgeKopf |
Jun 15 2022, 03:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 9-February 21 From: Princeton, NJ Member No.: 25,186 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think so.
OEM Part Number: 911-731-013-10 |
eric9144 |
Jun 15 2022, 03:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,741 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
I've seen those done on a 914/6, they don't match the factory mirror holes and have to go down the door skin a little more than the factory mirrors. I personally didn't like it, not my cup of tea, I think the factory mirrors look much better and now with them being so readily available you can do L/R no problem.
Just my two cents, its your car, do what makes you happy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Steve |
Jun 15 2022, 03:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,698 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I also tried 911 flag mirrors and 911 aero mirrors. They both look like dumbo from certain angles. The flag mirrors are also super hard to get the right angle so they lay flat. To go back to stock mirrors it was easier to replace the doors than to try and repair the damage from mounting 911 mirrors.
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johnhora |
Jun 15 2022, 04:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 873 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
George that looks like an early 70s mirror...the 911 mirrors just don't fit well on the 914....the stock ones are really the best fit especially for a street car....the only ones that work fairly well other that the stock 914 ones are Durants, Talbots, and Vitaloni....some of these were used on the 356 and early 911s.
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garrettlee2 |
Jun 15 2022, 09:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 8-September 12 From: riverside ca Member No.: 14,901 Region Association: None |
One has been on my car every since the late 70s. I like the look and function
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garrettlee2 |
Jun 15 2022, 09:55 PM
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vitamin914 |
Jun 16 2022, 05:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 8-September 21 From: Toronto Canada Member No.: 25,893 Region Association: Canada |
These 911 mirrors have mounting screws that mount from below and thread into the mirror. This would mean pulling off the interior door panel and trim for access.
The 914 mirror screws in from the outside into nuts that are welded to the door, no need to pull the panels. The welded on nuts exist even on the right side, although the pilot holes are not normally pre-drilled through the door skin. I think RH mirrors were a dealer option. Even if the bolt pattern of both mirrors matched, you would need to remove the welded nuts or drill them out for clearance holes. Putting the 911 mirrors on would not be a five minute swap job. |
GeorgeKopf |
Jun 16 2022, 07:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 9-February 21 From: Princeton, NJ Member No.: 25,186 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
These 911 mirrors have mounting screws that mount from below and thread into the mirror. This would mean pulling off the interior door panel and trim for access. The 914 mirror screws in from the outside into nuts that are welded to the door, no need to pull the panels. The welded on nuts exist even on the right side, although the pilot holes are not normally pre-drilled through the door skin. I think RH mirrors were a dealer option. Even if the bolt pattern of both mirrors matched, you would need to remove the welded nuts or drill them out for clearance holes. Putting the 911 mirrors on would not be a five minute swap job. @vitamin914 Thank you. The inability to reuse the existing welded nuts is the clincher. Now I just need to source one driver quality exterior 914 mirror. Thank you everybody for your input. George |
vitamin914 |
Jun 16 2022, 08:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 8-September 21 From: Toronto Canada Member No.: 25,893 Region Association: Canada |
These 911 mirrors have mounting screws that mount from below and thread into the mirror. This would mean pulling off the interior door panel and trim for access. The 914 mirror screws in from the outside into nuts that are welded to the door, no need to pull the panels. The welded on nuts exist even on the right side, although the pilot holes are not normally pre-drilled through the door skin. I think RH mirrors were a dealer option. Even if the bolt pattern of both mirrors matched, you would need to remove the welded nuts or drill them out for clearance holes. Putting the 911 mirrors on would not be a five minute swap job. @vitamin914 Thank you. The inability to reuse the existing welded nuts is the clincher. Now I just need to source one driver quality exterior 914 mirror. Thank you everybody for your input. George I purchased two from AA. Not OEM but look good and are new. http://www.autoatlanta.com/Factory-Look-Po...1473103910.html |
VegasRacer |
Jun 16 2022, 09:19 AM
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GeorgeKopf |
Jun 16 2022, 10:05 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 9-February 21 From: Princeton, NJ Member No.: 25,186 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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autopro |
Jun 16 2022, 11:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 306 Joined: 14-January 18 From: San Diego / Tijuana Member No.: 21,797 Region Association: Southern California |
I think I have an extra Late mirror, if I do I would trade your for your Early mirror.
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burton73 |
Jun 16 2022, 09:28 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,659 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
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GeorgeKopf |
Jun 16 2022, 10:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 9-February 21 From: Princeton, NJ Member No.: 25,186 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thank you everybody.
I think I'll try to pick up another early mirror. George |
wonkipop |
Jun 18 2022, 04:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,658 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
this was a good look.
to look at. but i dunno about looking into them and seeing much to look at? |
jims914 |
Jun 18 2022, 06:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 11-March 11 From: Tempe,AZ Member No.: 12,816 Region Association: Southwest Region |
911 mirrors are to large they look like elephant eyers.
I used 1986 Ford Escort GT electric mirrors. Attached thumbnail(s) |
nathanxnathan |
Jun 19 2022, 05:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
this was a good look. to look at. but i dunno about looking into them and seeing much to look at? That car looks so wrong to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That front wheel arch, less so the rear arch but a little. High wipers, reflection of a giant stroller? The mirror though, I feel like it sits too close to the edge of the door, the trapped negative space (my art school background there) is a bit awkward. |
wonkipop |
Jun 20 2022, 04:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,658 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
this was a good look. to look at. but i dunno about looking into them and seeing much to look at? That car looks so wrong to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That front wheel arch, less so the rear arch but a little. High wipers, reflection of a giant stroller? The mirror though, I feel like it sits too close to the edge of the door, the trapped negative space (my art school background there) is a bit awkward. i dunno. not an artist. i went to design school. one of yours. in chicago. f piech was thinking if it looked right on a 911 it looked right on a 914? i don't mind what he did with the front guards (fenders) either! and i do like what he did with the engine. i suppose he figured with 350 hp you don't need a rear view mirror? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) when i was out at the workshop today i noticed exactly the same mirror was used for alfa romeo 105s - except they had an alfa badge cast into the back of them. otherwise almost identical. some european manufacturer in the 1960s? |
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