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How did you mount dual pole oil pressure sender |
cgnj |
Jul 12 2022, 08:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 624 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
Almost ready to wake up the 2270 after dropping the motor to change oil pump & oil pressure relief circuit. How and where did you mount the dual pole sender. I am using a braided steel hose.
Thanks in advance |
sportlicherFahrer |
Jul 12 2022, 10:20 AM
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Nothing to see here. Group: Members Posts: 1,088 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Tacoma, WA Member No.: 3,945 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Depending on the length of your braided line you can get a P clamp that fits around the sender and mount the clamp to the top corner of the fan housing, one of the coil mounting bolts on the tin above #4 cylinder, or just about anywhere you desire. Best to find a mount point on the engine and not the body so you're not causing flex and vibration in the line which can cause premature failure of the line or fitting at the engine case.
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brant |
Jul 12 2022, 10:24 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It needs to ground I believe at the mount
I once had a clamp that was loose and had to provide a ground path |
bdstone914 |
Jul 12 2022, 10:38 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,532 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jul 12 2022, 11:21 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
go to the auto parts store and get a brass fitting with pipe threads to extend the oil pressure sending switch hole up and then screw in the sending unit
Almost ready to wake up the 2270 after dropping the motor to change oil pump & oil pressure relief circuit. How and where did you mount the dual pole sender. I am using a braided steel hose. Thanks in advance |
nditiz1 |
Jul 12 2022, 11:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
metal hose clamp with 2 mounting holes. Mount close by.
Yes it does need to be grounded |
NARP74 |
Jul 12 2022, 11:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,072 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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cgnj |
Jul 12 2022, 03:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 624 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
I think I found the p clamp I used originally.Now just need to find the box that I put the senders in.
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brant |
Jul 12 2022, 04:26 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,632 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
go to the auto parts store and get a brass fitting with pipe threads to extend the oil pressure sending switch hole up and then screw in the sending unit Almost ready to wake up the 2270 after dropping the motor to change oil pump & oil pressure relief circuit. How and where did you mount the dual pole sender. I am using a braided steel hose. Thanks in advance I’ve seen similar set ups fail And don’t recommend this set up Brass will work harden and crack over time. Usually at the threads. Especially with the sender weight on top A flexible hose will dampen the vibration Brant |
nathanxnathan |
Jul 12 2022, 06:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
When I ran a dual pole sensor and a larger Mallory Distributor, I had found (I forget where) a braided stainless line and made a bracket (just a length of flat steel with holes drilled at each end) to mount to the nearest case parting bolt. The NPT thread of the sensor would snug down on the bracket just as it sealed on the tapered thread.
I think it was npt at both ends (male at 1 female at he other) which isn't really the best imo, though it was allegedly made for that application. I do think the dual pole senders are all tapered thread? I maintain that the hole in the case wasn't originally. |
Brian Fuerbach |
Jul 12 2022, 07:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 1-July 19 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 23,266 Region Association: Southern California |
Ground is no problem with braided line. I sleeved the bracket with shrink tube for a cleaner look.
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DC_neun_vierzehn |
Dec 21 2022, 10:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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ndfrigi |
Dec 21 2022, 10:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,933 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
This one I was planning in doing mine.
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nathanxnathan |
Dec 22 2022, 12:34 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
This one I was planning in doing mine. I did it that way once. You have to modify the tin. Also the way it looks like that one is done and how I did it, you couldn't remove/replace the sender without removing the tin which is a major job. I used a VW bus ball joint boot for the grommet I recall. I went to a larger Mallory distributor, and I had to relocate it, and regretted having messed up the tin. |
VaccaRabite |
Dec 22 2022, 08:08 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,456 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You will notice a lot of people that started with dual pole senders have moved back to a T joint, a sender for the pressure gauge and a stock sender for the idiot light.
The issue is that the idiot light turns on at about 4PSI, and the dual pole will light up around 10PSI. Which can mean you have a flickering oil light on a hot engine at idle, which is disconcerting. Its one of those things where if you don't drive the car much or very long, or you make really good pressure, a dual pole is fine. But if you drive the car long enough for the oil to really come up to temp on a stock oil pump, you may find your oil light on, even though you have okay pressure. |
ndfrigi |
Dec 22 2022, 10:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,933 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
This one I was planning in doing mine. I did it that way once. You have to modify the tin. Also the way it looks like that one is done and how I did it, you couldn't remove/replace the sender without removing the tin which is a major job. I used a VW bus ball joint boot for the grommet I recall. I went to a larger Mallory distributor, and I had to relocate it, and regretted having messed up the tin. oh wow! thank you for that info. Good didn’t cut my tin yet when I painted them. |
NARP74 |
Dec 22 2022, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,072 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You will notice a lot of people that started with dual pole senders have moved back to a T joint, a sender for the pressure gauge and a stock sender for the idiot light. The issue is that the idiot light turns on at about 4PSI, and the dual pole will light up around 10PSI. Which can mean you have a flickering oil light on a hot engine at idle, which is disconcerting. Its one of those things where if you don't drive the car much or very long, or you make really good pressure, a dual pole is fine. But if you drive the car long enough for the oil to really come up to temp on a stock oil pump, you may find your oil light on, even though you have okay pressure. Mine does that. I thought it was a symptom of engine age, probably needs a rebuild, it still might. Good to know the trigger pressures though. Another project to add to my list. |
friethmiller |
Dec 22 2022, 01:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 494 Joined: 10-February 19 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 22,863 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You will notice a lot of people that started with dual pole senders have moved back to a T joint, a sender for the pressure gauge and a stock sender for the idiot light. The issue is that the idiot light turns on at about 4PSI, and the dual pole will light up around 10PSI. Which can mean you have a flickering oil light on a hot engine at idle, which is disconcerting. Its one of those things where if you don't drive the car much or very long, or you make really good pressure, a dual pole is fine. But if you drive the car long enough for the oil to really come up to temp on a stock oil pump, you may find your oil light on, even though you have okay pressure. This is so true! I'm going to a split setup (idiot light and single pole sender). I currently have a dual pole installed and once hot, the oil pressure light flickers/comes on. It's even worse when the A/C is running which draws the rpms down a bit more. |
NARP74 |
Dec 22 2022, 02:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,072 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You will notice a lot of people that started with dual pole senders have moved back to a T joint, a sender for the pressure gauge and a stock sender for the idiot light. The issue is that the idiot light turns on at about 4PSI, and the dual pole will light up around 10PSI. Which can mean you have a flickering oil light on a hot engine at idle, which is disconcerting. Its one of those things where if you don't drive the car much or very long, or you make really good pressure, a dual pole is fine. But if you drive the car long enough for the oil to really come up to temp on a stock oil pump, you may find your oil light on, even though you have okay pressure. This is so true! I'm going to a split setup (idiot light and single pole sender). I currently have a dual pole installed and once hot, the oil pressure light flickers/comes on. It's even worse when the A/C is running which draws the rpms down a bit more. I developed a habit of revving at stop lights just so I don't see the light flicker. |
ClayPerrine |
Dec 22 2022, 03:08 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,503 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
go to the auto parts store and get a brass fitting with pipe threads to extend the oil pressure sending switch hole up and then screw in the sending unit Almost ready to wake up the 2270 after dropping the motor to change oil pump & oil pressure relief circuit. How and where did you mount the dual pole sender. I am using a braided steel hose. Thanks in advance I’ve seen similar set ups fail And don’t recommend this set up Brass will work harden and crack over time. Usually at the threads. Especially with the sender weight on top A flexible hose will dampen the vibration Brant Brant... I have had hoses fail... even high pressure grease gun hoses. So I use the same setup George does. But I make sure the heavy gauge sender is off the side of the t fitting, and that it is supported with a padded clamp mounted to the engine tin. So it does not vibrate and work harden the brass. Watching a 50 psi spray of hot oil whip the hose around and coat everything in the engine compartment with hot oil (including me) is scary. Clay |
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