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| nivekdodge |
 Oct 12 2022, 03:22 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 250 Joined: 28-August 21 From: Pittsburgh Pa Member No.: 25,860 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Getting ready to put the motor back in. Axles are out. should i put them in first and work around them or leave them out till motor is in?
Kevin |
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| mgphoto |
Oct 12 2022, 04:12 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(nivekdodge @ Oct 12 2022, 02:22 PM)  Getting ready to put the motor back in. Axles are out. should i put them in first and work around them or leave them out till motor is in? Kevin Easier to install engine and then axle, starter makes drivers side a little difficult, make sure you attach stub axle on outer cv first. |
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| Highland |
Oct 12 2022, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 513 Joined: 8-August 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 13,418 Region Association: Southern California |
One thing for sure is install the axles before the exhaust. I think I tied the axles up against the springs to keep them out of the way, but other than the exhaust it probably doesn’t matter too much.
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| 914werke |
Oct 12 2022, 07:39 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,141 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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no issue either way unless you are moving the car. If you are you better have at least the stub axels in the wheels or you will destroy your bearings.
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| rgalla9146 |
Oct 13 2022, 06:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,569 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(914werke @ Oct 12 2022, 09:39 PM) no issue either way unless you are moving the car. If you are you better have at least the stub axels in the wheels or you will destroy your bearings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Stub axles out ? Have to move the car ? Easy. See pic. Use this or your version of it to tighten the bearing races to each other to prevent damage. PS, those big fat washers can be found a older Porsche repair shops. They were used to raise bumper height on '70s 911s Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| VaccaRabite |
Oct 13 2022, 07:08 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I've never removed the axles to remove or install an engine. Just put plastic bags on the CVs to keep grease contained.
Zach |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 13 2022, 11:17 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 13 2022, 06:08 AM) I've never removed the axles to remove or install an engine. Just put plastic bags on the CVs to keep grease contained. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Just unbolt the CV's on the transmission side and slide the whole thing out the back. No need to remove the stub axles and risk ruining the wheel bearings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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| Highland |
Oct 13 2022, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 513 Joined: 8-August 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 13,418 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 13 2022, 10:17 AM) QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 13 2022, 06:08 AM) I've never removed the axles to remove or install an engine. Just put plastic bags on the CVs to keep grease contained. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Just unbolt the CV's on the transmission side and slide the whole thing out the back. No need to remove the stub axles and risk ruining the wheel bearings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Is it possible to reinstall the axle if removed with the above method or does the stub axle have to be removed to reassemble the CV? |
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| VaccaRabite |
Oct 13 2022, 01:09 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(Highland @ Oct 13 2022, 02:19 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 13 2022, 10:17 AM) QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 13 2022, 06:08 AM) I've never removed the axles to remove or install an engine. Just put plastic bags on the CVs to keep grease contained. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Just unbolt the CV's on the transmission side and slide the whole thing out the back. No need to remove the stub axles and risk ruining the wheel bearings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Is it possible to reinstall the axle if removed with the above method or does the stub axle have to be removed to reassemble the CV? You don't remove the axle. So there is no need to do anything with the stub axle. You are literally pulling the 4 bolt off the CV that attaches to the transmssion, and putting a bag around the CV, and that's it. The axles just kinda hang down and you push them around as needed when removing or installing the engine. You do not take apart the CV, remove the stubs, or any of that. In fact, you don't even touch the outer CVs. On reinstall, you put in a new seal, use new bolts and new washers. Zach |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 13 2022, 01:24 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,304 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Sounds like his engine and axles are already out. If that's the case, install the wheel end of the axles first!
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| Highland |
Oct 13 2022, 01:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 513 Joined: 8-August 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 13,418 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 13 2022, 12:09 PM) QUOTE(Highland @ Oct 13 2022, 02:19 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 13 2022, 10:17 AM) QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 13 2022, 06:08 AM) I've never removed the axles to remove or install an engine. Just put plastic bags on the CVs to keep grease contained. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Just unbolt the CV's on the transmission side and slide the whole thing out the back. No need to remove the stub axles and risk ruining the wheel bearings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Is it possible to reinstall the axle if removed with the above method or does the stub axle have to be removed to reassemble the CV? You don't remove the axle. So there is no need to do anything with the stub axle. You are literally pulling the 4 bolt off the CV that attaches to the transmssion, and putting a bag around the CV, and that's it. The axles just kinda hang down and you push them around as needed when removing or installing the engine. You do not take apart the CV, remove the stubs, or any of that. In fact, you don't even touch the outer CVs. On reinstall, you put in a new seal, use new bolts and new washers. Zach Maybe I misunderstood. Sir Andy said to remove on the wheel side so I thought that meant unbolting the CV at the stub axle. This was more of a general question than specifically for engine install. |
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| VaccaRabite |
Oct 13 2022, 01:43 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(Highland @ Oct 13 2022, 03:28 PM) QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 13 2022, 12:09 PM) QUOTE(Highland @ Oct 13 2022, 02:19 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 13 2022, 10:17 AM) QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Oct 13 2022, 06:08 AM) I've never removed the axles to remove or install an engine. Just put plastic bags on the CVs to keep grease contained. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Just unbolt the CV's on the transmission side and slide the whole thing out the back. No need to remove the stub axles and risk ruining the wheel bearings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Is it possible to reinstall the axle if removed with the above method or does the stub axle have to be removed to reassemble the CV? You don't remove the axle. So there is no need to do anything with the stub axle. You are literally pulling the 4 bolt off the CV that attaches to the transmssion, and putting a bag around the CV, and that's it. The axles just kinda hang down and you push them around as needed when removing or installing the engine. You do not take apart the CV, remove the stubs, or any of that. In fact, you don't even touch the outer CVs. On reinstall, you put in a new seal, use new bolts and new washers. Zach Maybe I misunderstood. Sir Andy said to remove on the wheel side so I thought that meant unbolting the CV at the stub axle. This was more of a general question than specifically for engine install. Same difference. He's leaving the axles attached to the trans and taking out the 4 bolts on the wheel side and bagging the CV there. There still is no taking apart the CV. And you still need a new seal, bolts and washers. Zach |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 13 2022, 03:37 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Highland @ Oct 13 2022, 12:28 PM) Maybe I misunderstood. Sir Andy said to remove on the wheel side so I thought that meant unbolting the CV at the stub axle. This was more of a general question than specifically for engine install. Fixed it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Either way, no need to remove or take apart anything. Zach is right, unbolting the CVs on the transmission is easier. http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
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| brant |
Oct 13 2022, 04:41 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,640 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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I agree with Andy
I find it much easier to bolt the outboard cv with the motor out So would recommend axles first Then motor I never remove the outboard side to pull a motor Only the inboard/trans side for pulling a motor Removing cv’s only for servicing cv’s |
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| nivekdodge |
Oct 16 2022, 07:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 250 Joined: 28-August 21 From: Pittsburgh Pa Member No.: 25,860 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I got the axles in a box with the car. and 3 cv joints. Someone just wanted the car to move. they tried prying back the brake pads, disconnecting the clutch.... thanks guys, 1 axle in second to follow.
Kevin |
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