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911 or 914, same year |
bd1308 |
Aug 8 2005, 10:47 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i have a 74 914, and there is a 911 for sale--1974.
no oil leaks on the 911 and what-not. they want 7900 for it. tell me all about 911s.... |
Joe Ricard |
Aug 8 2005, 10:51 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Buy it and swap all that tail dragger stuff into the teener.
OH BTW DON'T LET AUGUST SLIP BY. I got the inch to build another motor. and the 1.7 is going to give up the case. |
7391420 |
Aug 8 2005, 10:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 6-August 03 From: boston, ma Member No.: 988 |
74's have the 2.7 liter engine which is generally considered the worst 911 engine. 74's didn't have the smog equipment that the 76-77's did, which made those engine's much worse because they run hot and wear out fast. That being said the 74's still had the 2.7 which has not proven to be as reliable as the later sc and carerra motors. If the engine has been re-built (correctly!) and the car is otherwise solid, it could be a good deal. Just realize that most 911 people think that the 74-77 cars kind of suck and arent worth much, so when the time comes to sell you can loose your shirt real fast....
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bd1308 |
Aug 8 2005, 10:56 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
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lapuwali |
Aug 8 2005, 11:30 AM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
The '74 is certainly the best of the 2.7s stock. The ('72-'73) 2.4s are generally more expensive in similar condition, which is an indication of how people feel about the 2.7s. Once the 2.7 is rebuilt, though, it's a very nice engine.
The '75-'77 cars had more smog stuff, some of which was lethal to the engine. In place of catalytic convertors, a small number of manufacturers chose to use thermal reactors, which were big lumps of cast iron forming the exhaust manifolds, air injected to promote combustion of any remaining HCs after they'd blown out the exhaust valve. This generated tremendous heat, and tremendous underhood temps that cooked everything. Just the thing you need on an air-cooled engine...What the Porsche engineers were thinking, I have no idea. After the company was nearly bankrupted from warranty problems and the general unhappiness with the brand (911s that blew up, the 928 that just didn't push enough people's buttons, and the 924), Porsche wised up and switched to catalytic convertors with the SC, also using the Al case of the 930, which resulted in one of the most reliable engines they've ever made. As for the general 914 v 911 thing, you need to drive a 911. They're very different cars from the 914. The newer the car, the heavier it will be, and the less of a "sports car" it will be. |
Mueller |
Aug 8 2005, 11:34 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
sorry, they don't make single carb kits for the 911 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) if you can barely afford to fix the 914, forget about the 911... |
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SGB |
Aug 8 2005, 11:41 AM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
914= 2 seater gokart
911= 2.5 seater automobile Right now I need 4 seats in an automobile. Maybe somday.... |
redshift |
Aug 8 2005, 11:43 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
The one to get is the Factory RSR LW, it screams. M |
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tat2dphreak |
Aug 8 2005, 11:52 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) a 911 motor rebuild is more than a decent complete 914... chew on that... |
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redshift |
Aug 8 2005, 11:59 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Hey, you can buy nice 911s for the cost of a /4 rebuild, as well..
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chowtime.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) M |
bd1308 |
Aug 8 2005, 12:01 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i like the go-kart feel.
911s will be around for a long time. 914s will not. |
ArtechnikA |
Aug 8 2005, 12:08 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
a '74 with no leaks has no oil -- tread carefully.
911's didn't get the zinc-coated steel until 1976; early cars rust like 914's do. '74 was the first of the short-hood cars. a 49-state '74 might be okay. early CIS definitely had its quirks tho. just remember that all early 911's are $15,000. all mid-year (SC-era) 911's are $25,000. you will either pay it up front, or you will pay it within the first year or so of ownership. there are several good books on buying used 911's; get one, read it. i really like my 911 but i do not think it would be a good choice for you until you get more mechanical experience. they are not "do first, ask questions later" cars. and with the possible exception of window-winder handles, there will be no parts for them available at the local VW store. there will be damn few parts for them at the FLAPS. ANY FLAPS, with the possible exception of a few in SoCal where 911's are parked 3-deep at the grocery store. even those may not have anything older than the SC. i buy oil at the Pep Boys - that's *it* for local sources. everything else comes from an online source. that means you have to learn to plan everything all the way through, including all the contingencies for things that might go wrong or that you will find "while you're in there," and have parts and tools lined up and ready to go -- or be willing to have the car parked a week until parts arrive. they are very reliable and parts don't break very often. the other side of that coin: reliable parts are expensive when you need them. |
bd1308 |
Aug 8 2005, 12:18 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
no zinc-coating.....no moolah thats what i was looking for thanks. |
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mudfoot76 |
Aug 8 2005, 12:45 PM
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Currently teenerless :-( Group: Members Posts: 946 Joined: 18-March 04 From: Carmel, IN Member No.: 1,814 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Owning a '73 teener, and having driven a bone stock '74 911 (as well as right seat time on a track), these are two totally different beasts. Acceleration (measured via the always accurate seat-of-the-pants method) feels about the same, but it is the handling that really sets the two apart. All the horror stories about snap-spins gained valuable perspective riding around in the 911 on a track. It was unnerving to feel the rear of the car slingshot around the corners. It never really felt like it was planted, whereas we all know the teener feels like it corners on rails. As if the 911 was telling us 'you only think you are in control'...maybe the person I was riding with wasn't as good of a driver either, but that car felt like it was taunting all the way around the circuit 'go ahead, just lift the throttle a little bit through that left-right-left section, i dare ya!' |
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bd1308 |
Aug 8 2005, 12:56 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i can do curves around 55 limit twisties at over 70 all night long....
the 914 is fun, i really like it. I would really like to keep it for many years to come. throttle-lift oversteer thermal-reactor im still sticking to the 914 like glue paste sticks to the inside of little kid's mouths. |
tat2dphreak |
Aug 8 2005, 01:19 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
more like the lead paint on the window seals you chewed on as a kid... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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Joe Bob |
Aug 8 2005, 01:32 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
911s shrink yer winky.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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ArtechnikA |
Aug 8 2005, 01:36 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
yes. best to start with more than you need before you buy ... |
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bd1308 |
Aug 8 2005, 03:38 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
hey, a kid had to do what a kid had to do. it was soft...and cold, much like the other side of the pillow.
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Gint |
Aug 8 2005, 03:47 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,082 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You gotta be kiddin...
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