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windforfun |
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Just curious. I would like to know this before I sell mine. How many do you suggest are still on the road?
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
Just curious. I would like to know this before I sell mine. How many do you suggest are still on the road? http://www.914world.com/specs/productionnumbers.php (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,090 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Not that I'm questioning this, but I swear I've seen numerous articles that said there were over 300,000 made in total??
As for how many are still on the road (not on permanent jackstands..), I'm thinking 10% would be generous. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,612 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
You should consider sources...
But, your other question is one I've thought about too. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,883 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,640 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I’ve only seen the slightly over 100k number
But consistently I’ve seen this number since the 1980s |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 22-January 09 From: Panama City Beach, FL Member No.: 9,961 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
3300 sixes number goes something like 2700 1970/ majority of remainder 71 and a few. 72
Forget exact but will look up and correct Here it is 2668/443/240 (3351) per The Porsche Book Lothar Boschen/Juergen Barth |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 22-January 09 From: Panama City Beach, FL Member No.: 9,961 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
Standard 4 115,597
Six 3318 Special factory 12 According to Brian Long book As you see numbers vary |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,903 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() |
As for how many are still on the road (not on permanent jackstands..), I'm thinking 10% would be generous. Porsche likes to claim a very high percentage (like 70%) of cars still on the road. I think they exaggerate but I’m sure they count cars registered, in storage, etc. I’m sure this is also an average that is highly skewed by the large number of 924, 944, 911, 928, Boxters, etc. ![]() I do think the number is higher than 10% though. I base that off the number of registered users here on World (yeah not all are still alive) and the activity in Faceplant, Bird Forum, other Porsche sites and the random sampling I see on the road. A 914 /4 certainly isn’t rare to the extent they would be if only 10,000 (the 10% number) or so were still on the road world wide. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,090 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Not that I'm questioning this, but I swear I've seen numerous articles that said there were over 300,000 made in total?? As for how many are still on the road (not on permanent jackstands..), I'm thinking 10% would be generous. I’ve only ever seen ~ 120k made. Ok, the brain cell retrieval isn't what it used to be... Being that I have a factory -6, I did remember that number was in the 3330 to 3350 range. How many are drivable/registered/on the road could be up for discussion. Answering the OP's comment about selling, "condition, condition, condition" |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,804 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
My guess is that 10% (for cars still on the road) is too low, but 70% is too high--unless "on the road" means anything with at least 3 wheels and not crushed.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille ![]() ![]() |
far as i am concerned they never made enough.
------------ i think there would not be 70% of 914s existing. let alone on road. i seriously doubt that claim for the other models as well. porsche just say it. proper academics would cite the sources. ie current international road registration figures. verdict a wild claim i think. i reckon be lucky if 25% of 914s survive in anything remotely resembling driveable condition. i do remember i saw them nearly every second/third day in chicago in 88-91. bet its not like that now. you never see them in australia of course. never. not unless i get mine out on sunday mornings. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,883 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Well I think as I have personally parted at least 10 myself and owned 3 I would guess 30% are still road worthy
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,728 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
I'm a believer in "chainsaw math"
There are 14,861 cars in the 914World VIN registry. 1,034 of them are notated as dead/crushed/parted. That gets you to 13,827 remaining. I'm going to assume at least 10% (my gut would be more like 20%) of those are either parted out since their VIN listing, or will otherwise never see daylight again. Based on that, we're at around 12,400. I'd generously venture that at least half the surviving 914s are in the registry here. So that would suggest around 25,000 still existing. That would be a bit over 20% of the original production. That feels like a reasonable ballpark to me. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,896 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None ![]() |
thanks to the current popularity of the 914 the percentage is gaining. I know that around 50 percent remain just looking at our current 914 customer files
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None ![]() |
60K customers? Wow.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,260 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Interesting thoughts in this thread and I am sure that George’s numbers have some validity. It would take a more in-depth look at that data though to say that AA’s 60,000 name customer base represents 50% of the VINs produced. I would venture a guess that a few of those customers worked on more than one car and also that in many cases any one car had more than one customer work on it.
I have never really thought of the number of 914’s total, but I have given some thought on the number of sixes that might be left. Here is a thread that has some numbers in it based on some limited research for sixes. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...300107&st=0 I think estimates in that thread have some basis and might be pretty close. |
windforfun |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None ![]() |
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Intelligent people here. Thank you. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 185 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
All I know is that I rarely see 914s where I live in the PNW. Most younger folks have little idea what it is. Seems like Gex X and older know them. At Porsche event you see maybe 2-3 for every 25 911s
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