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> Tins missing - Where to find them
PaIsa
post Aug 19 2024, 09:13 AM
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Hello All.

Car: 1972 with 1.7L engine

As I was under to car to look from where it was leaking, it seems to me that I am missing 2 pieces of tin on the underside of the engine. My understanding is that there are tin that goes between the heat exchanger and the case.

Looking on the web, I think that I could supply the one going on the passenger side but was not able to find out anyone capable of supplying the one on the driver side.

Anyone knows where I could get these tin pieces?

Below is an image of where I think I would be missing a tin (passenger side). Anything else missing???

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post Aug 19 2024, 09:49 AM
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Most 914s are missing that tin. It won't slow you down.

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post Aug 19 2024, 10:10 AM
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we had them made and literally have HUNDREDS of new ones on the shelf. We also have used ones for the left 70-72. Here are the different ones:

left drivers 70-72
right pass 70-74
left drivers 75 76
right pass 75 76

air guide plates dependent on the shift linkage and the year of the heat exchanger


QUOTE(PaIsa @ Aug 19 2024, 08:13 AM) *

Hello All.

Car: 1972 with 1.7L engine

As I was under to car to look from where it was leaking, it seems to me that I am missing 2 pieces of tin on the underside of the engine. My understanding is that there are tin that goes between the heat exchanger and the case.

Looking on the web, I think that I could supply the one going on the passenger side but was not able to find out anyone capable of supplying the one on the driver side.

Anyone knows where I could get these tin pieces?

Below is an image of where I think I would be missing a tin (passenger side). Anything else missing???

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post Aug 19 2024, 10:11 AM
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we had them made and literally have HUNDREDS of new ones on the shelf. We also have used ones for the left 70-72. Here are the different ones:

left drivers 70-72
right pass 70-74
left drivers 75 76
right pass 75 76

air guide plates dependent on the shift linkage and the year of the heat exchanger


QUOTE(PaIsa @ Aug 19 2024, 08:13 AM) *

Hello All.

Car: 1972 with 1.7L engine

As I was under to car to look from where it was leaking, it seems to me that I am missing 2 pieces of tin on the underside of the engine. My understanding is that there are tin that goes between the heat exchanger and the case.

Looking on the web, I think that I could supply the one going on the passenger side but was not able to find out anyone capable of supplying the one on the driver side.

Anyone knows where I could get these tin pieces?

Below is an image of where I think I would be missing a tin (passenger side). Anything else missing???

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post Aug 19 2024, 10:50 AM
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Most 914s are missing that tin. It won't slow you down.

Zach


I know it won't slow me down, but would like to have them. I like to have parts where they suppose to be. Maybe pointless, but it is the way I am!
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post Aug 19 2024, 10:54 AM
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For the passenger side, your part number appears to be B022119355.
For the driver side, I was not able to find the part that seemed to fit my setup.
I have a tail shifter, but not sure how to identify the heat exchanger I have.

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post Aug 19 2024, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(PaIsa @ Aug 19 2024, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Aug 19 2024, 09:49 AM) *

Most 914s are missing that tin. It won't slow you down.

Zach


I know it won't slow me down, but would like to have them. I like to have parts where they suppose to be. Maybe pointless, but it is the way I am!


Smart call, generally speaking the guys in Stuttgart did not add any extra pieces for the heck of it. If you look a bit I'm sure they can be found for very cheap
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post Aug 19 2024, 05:33 PM
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I have some used that need refinishing. Will post them up tomorrow.
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post Aug 19 2024, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(PaIsa @ Aug 19 2024, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Aug 19 2024, 09:49 AM) *

Most 914s are missing that tin. It won't slow you down.

Zach


I know it won't slow me down, but would like to have them. I like to have parts where they suppose to be. Maybe pointless, but it is the way I am!


Smart call, generally speaking the guys in Stuttgart did not add any extra pieces for the heck of it. If you look a bit I'm sure they can be found for very cheap


Agreed, but some parts had more heck than others. I ran for a couple of months without these. On the right side, it seems like one purpose is to shield the clutch and speedo cables from hot air.
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post Aug 21 2024, 06:20 AM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Aug 19 2024, 06:44 PM) *

QUOTE(930cabman @ Aug 19 2024, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(PaIsa @ Aug 19 2024, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Aug 19 2024, 09:49 AM) *

Most 914s are missing that tin. It won't slow you down.

Zach


I know it won't slow me down, but would like to have them. I like to have parts where they suppose to be. Maybe pointless, but it is the way I am!


Smart call, generally speaking the guys in Stuttgart did not add any extra pieces for the heck of it. If you look a bit I'm sure they can be found for very cheap


Agreed, but some parts had more heck than others. I ran for a couple of months without these. On the right side, it seems like one purpose is to shield the clutch and speedo cables from hot air.


i think you are right. thats mostly why those lower plates are there.
to spare the cables.

and as to the engineers in stuttgart with their logic and bits that are meant to be there.
well there are no such pieces on the 6 engine. they just blow their hot air straight down.
so i am all ears on that one. (said in good humour). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

basically the facts are the VW engine had tin ware that was designed to blow air straight out the back of the rear engine cars where it could do no harm. and here they were with a mid engined car with the air flow reversed trying to exhaust it out the back of the car from the middle.

in three words............they were dreaming.

the hot air still collects under the car trapped by the bubble of the rear trunk.
or blows around under the car and collects in the wells where the fuel pump is etc.
when you are stuck in inner city stop and start traffic.

in short, despite the reputation we would all like to hold those engineers with reverence in,
i call bs. it is a lash up and a failure either way. the car only leaves its hot exhausted cooling air behind it when its on the move.

the only underside tins that count are the ones higher up that curve under the cylinders.

you can kill me. i'm lying on the couch. stab me to death if you want. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

but the whole thing of the VW engine in the middle of the car exhausting spent cooling air was never really sorted. despite the geniuses of air cooling working on it.
its a VW engine designed to go in the back of a car and everything that goes with it.
stuck in the middle with a bit of a lash up on those bottom air guides.

same geniuses didn't do them on the 6.
so............hmmmmm?
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