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engine support bar, My engine bar has been welded, makes me |
IanStott |
Oct 17 2005, 10:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 13-June 04 From: Moncton,New Brunswick,Canada Member No.: 2,199 |
Trying to find a source for a new engine support bar and I'm not doing well. Also when you up your HP is the stock one strong enough ? Is there a source for a stronger one if required? Thanks.
Ian Moncton |
URY914 |
Oct 17 2005, 10:28 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,017 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
What year car? The bars are different from early cars and late cars. Late cars are cast iron. I have both types of bars if you need one.
I would say the stock bars will be able to support just about any HP you can come up with in a Type IV. The bar I built for my car is half the weight of the stock bar but is plenty strong enough. Paul |
Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 17 2005, 10:40 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
The early bars ARE welded. The Cap'n
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groot |
Oct 17 2005, 10:57 AM
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Dis member Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,444 |
I've got a cast spare I don't need. Just cover shipping and it's yours....
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URY914 |
Oct 17 2005, 11:06 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,017 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I know. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Late bars cast. |
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Mueller |
Oct 17 2005, 11:38 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
400 or so HP is the number that Rod Simpson claims for his Chevy V8 conversion kits....yes, he does use the stock bar with brackets bolted to it for the base kits. |
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IanStott |
Oct 17 2005, 12:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 13-June 04 From: Moncton,New Brunswick,Canada Member No.: 2,199 |
I e-mailed kevin Groot indicating I will take him up on his kind offer, thanks to all who posted. The weld on my existing bar was a concern for 2 reasons, weld strength and the passenger side was a piece of pipe allowing the bolt to move around, not an ideal setup!
Ian Stott |
Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 17 2005, 12:19 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
You still havwen't told us whether your car is early or late. If it's early, the free bar won't fit. The Cap'n
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groot |
Oct 17 2005, 12:35 PM
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Dis member Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,444 |
74 is later, no?
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SLITS |
Oct 17 2005, 12:42 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Easy way to tell.......
Are the end attachments like the mounts for the transmission (rubber) or do the bolts go directly in to a metal plate (no rubber). 1st is early (tailshift), 2nd is late (sideshift) And '74....yes...sideshift from maybe mid '72 up. |
IanStott |
Oct 17 2005, 12:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 13-June 04 From: Moncton,New Brunswick,Canada Member No.: 2,199 |
It is times like this I wish I could post pics. According to Kevin the bar he has is the correct one. Anyone able to post pics of both, then I will know for sure so we don't waste Kevin's time shipping me something I can't use.
Ian |
914werke |
Oct 17 2005, 01:00 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,138 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Didnt Mark Bland fab a sweet support bar that was stronger AND saved weight?
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IanStott |
Oct 17 2005, 01:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 13-June 04 From: Moncton,New Brunswick,Canada Member No.: 2,199 |
Mine is a 74, sorry for not posting that, I did give that info to Kevin in an e-mail.
Ian |
SLITS |
Oct 17 2005, 01:32 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Then you should have solid mounts at the end....rubber pads at the center (kinda) of the engine behind the blower housing....and a big hole on the driver's side for the sideshift shift linkage to pass thru. |
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URY914 |
Oct 17 2005, 02:00 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,017 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I did too. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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IanStott |
Oct 17 2005, 02:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 13-June 04 From: Moncton,New Brunswick,Canada Member No.: 2,199 |
Yeah, it is solid at the ends with the rubber engine mounts behind the blower housing, and the big hole for the shifter linkage on the drivers side. The rubbers are in great shape, I know there are solid ones available, but I hear they are noisier. The passenger side is just a piece of pipe welded on, it worked but I don't trust it.
Ian |
sublime74 |
Oct 18 2005, 12:07 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Fremont, CA Member No.: 4,876 |
I am interested in either the Mark Bland lightweight support bar or the URY914 lightwieght bar for my '74 914. You have a photo and a price? Will it work with the stock shift rod? Will it work with a dry sump pump?
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URY914 |
Oct 18 2005, 07:04 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,017 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Here is a picture of my bar.... Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Mark Henry |
Oct 18 2005, 07:09 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Ian, I may have a bar if you still need one...save you the customs hassles (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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URY914 |
Oct 18 2005, 07:12 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,017 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Here is the link to my post about the bar... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...hl=mounting+bar
But I not interested in building these to sell. Feel free to copy it, take it to a fabshop and have them make one for you. I know several guys here that would do a great job for you (RacerChris and Tony). I used 1” tubing and some 1 ½” angle. Pretty simple really. Sorry, I really just need the time to work on my own stuff. Paul |
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