 Early vs late steering wheels?, Something isn't fitting right... |
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| bondo |
 Oct 31 2005, 03:46 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking  Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California  |
I pulled the aftermarket wheel and sold it at the R&G swap.. Yesterday I put on a stock wheel from a 73 (car is a 71) and the splines match, but there's a big gap between the wheel and the housing, and the turn signals won't cancel. What's going on here?
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| SLITS |
Oct 31 2005, 03:52 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
Difference in the washer / windshield wiper assys? Washer is on dash on early cars and combined in the later cars with the turn signal.
Cancellation is a plastic tab ring that is screwed to the rear of the steering wheel. Several of mine were missing / broken Horn activation is different too! Hell, I don't know anything....just guessing.... |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 31 2005, 04:31 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
different steering column ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Andy |
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| ClayPerrine |
Oct 31 2005, 05:23 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,503 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille 
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| SirAndy |
Oct 31 2005, 05:42 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
the shaft itself is different from a '73 compared to the early (pre '73 cars) ...
also, the whole assembly, turn signal levers etc. is different. the wheel will fit the spline, but it won't fit the rest of the column ... btw. switching columns won't work either. not only uses the later column different mounting points, it also uses completely different wires/plugs. it's not worth all the trouble for just a steering wheel as you'd have to also switch over the complete main wiring harness to make the later column work correctly. which is, btw., exactly what i did in my car ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) Andy |
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| markb |
Oct 31 2005, 07:21 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California
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Royce, get the car running, bring it down to the yard, and we'll match it up. I've got a few steering wheels.
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| dbledsoe |
Oct 31 2005, 07:52 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Man, sometimes living in Boise Idaho sucks. I often feel like the Lone Ranger (Lone Teener) up here. I wish I had that kind of support for my pair of 914's! But then again, I am originally from Napa CA. and don't miss it at all.. or do I? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) |
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| bondo |
Oct 31 2005, 08:16 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Cool! Will do! Thanks! |
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| SpecialK |
Oct 31 2005, 09:05 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
If the splines match (I sure hope they do Britt), then all you have to do is swap the bases. The one with the metal turn signal canceller is a bit taller than the one with the plastic canceller, but the retainer screw pattern is the same on both.
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| SpecialK |
Oct 31 2005, 09:06 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
The other kind (newer?)
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| SpecialK |
Oct 31 2005, 09:09 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
Remove the three screws holding on the horn contact ring (seen in the second pic), then remove the 4 mounting screws that hold the base on........just did it a few days ago, everything lined up perfect. Or the other way around if you need the longer base assy. (shown in the first pic).
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| LvSteveH |
Oct 31 2005, 09:17 PM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
As far as I know, Kevin is correct. I've swapped several wheels from early to late cars and visa versa by switching the parts shown.
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| bondo |
Oct 31 2005, 10:35 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Sweet, you learn something new every day! Thanks guys!
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| markb |
Oct 31 2005, 10:59 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California
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Yup, that's what we'll do with bondo's. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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| jonwatts |
Oct 31 2005, 11:30 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 31 2005, 11:44 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
if the old adapter fits and the wheel itself is not thicker, this might work. but i had some problems with later wheels and early adapters where the wheel itself was too thick and you could not get enought threads on the nut. as i said, the shaft itself is different between the years ... keep us posted, i'm curious what you guys will find ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Andy |
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| bondo |
Nov 1 2005, 12:50 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Tee hee, that wheel is going on the 73, so it'll work.. this is the wheel that WAS on the 73, and I'm trying to put it on the 71. My god, do I really have multiple 914s again? Sheesh! |
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| tracks914 |
Nov 1 2005, 04:21 PM
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Canadian Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,083 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Timmins, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 153 Region Association: None |
I have a 72 without the signal canceller. (must have broken off) Another case of living way up north, never even seen another 914 until I restored mine and I just don't know what I just don't know!
Does anyone have an extra one? |
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| orcadigital |
Nov 1 2005, 04:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 1-November 05 From: Elizabeth, CO Member No.: 5,043 |
The second picture is the later model one (least was the one on my 76). It was a bugger and a half to find one though, because i was silly, and sold my original wheel with the canceling cam on the back (when i got my momo wheel and hub adapter) and didnt know i had to keep the piece. I wasnt able to find one from all my normal shop sources, and finally, my dad happened to be in Oklahoma City for a horse show, and stopped by Oklahoma Foreign and they of course had one. I was so proud when i put my new steering wheel in, and my horns became permanently ON. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
Now they sit in a drawer of my workbench... Grant |
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