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FLOOR BOARDS, INSULATION |
TINCAN914 |
Nov 25 2005, 01:14 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Question: I have removed my carpeting, if you can call it that. Iam trying to prep for paint in the coming months. THe question that I have is this. I have seen posts regarding the insulation or sound proof pad. (Not sure of technical name)
It dosen't appear that I have anything there. Basically what I see is a light yellowish looking film, (similar to what is on the firewall) Beyond that, I don't see anything. Does anyone have any pics or lonks to a previous post as to what t looks like. I don't want to waste my time if I don't have to. Feedback is appreciated. Thanks |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 25 2005, 01:15 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
willl look like this when its all off....
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1131937408.jpg) thanks again grimstead |
TINCAN914 |
Nov 25 2005, 01:21 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
That's what I thought.. SH&%!!!!! ANyone want to come over and do mine? Aaron what did you guy's use to take it off? Tomorrow is the big day yes? Vroom, Vroom.. |
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SirAndy |
Nov 25 2005, 01:22 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
if it's painted in the color of the car, that means you still have the tar stuff in there ... they put it on the bare metal and then painted over it ... after 30+ years, the tar usually has cracked and water has made it's way inside and the floor boards started to rust. do the crunch test. press hard on one of the depressions on the floor board, like behind the seats, and listen for the rust underneath to "crunch" ... body-colored tar with cracks and rust: (IMG:http://www.sirandy.com/pix/914/work/017.jpg) and after taking it all off (you can see the rust in the depression areas): (IMG:http://www.sirandy.com/pix/914/work/035.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) Andy |
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Allan |
Nov 25 2005, 01:24 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Normally the only thing there is a coating of a tar like material that most people remove because it has a tendency to seperate fron the floor and trap moisture. I plan on eventually removing mine and goind to either dynamat or fatmat.
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SpecialK |
Nov 25 2005, 01:25 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
.....and rust is depressing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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TINCAN914 |
Nov 25 2005, 01:30 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) I HATE RUST, RUST BAD!!!! Ok I have seen heat guns use, any suggestions on the best way? Istill have the aircraft stripper, might that work? good bad? Advice please before I start beating it with a hammer while screaming!!! |
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SpecialK |
Nov 25 2005, 01:31 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
I did my Jeep Wrangler inner tube with a three part truck bed liner (Herculiner?), that shit was tough as nails, and impervious to everything. The only problem I could see in this application is that it had a texture which might make it difficult to get the carpets to stay where you want them (hard to get velcro to stick to the liner).
As far as removing the tar, I used a heatgun and a 2" scraper (putty knife)....big pain in the ass! I've also heard that dry ice will make it brittle enough to bust up and remove. |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 25 2005, 01:32 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
bill grimstead brought over a heat gun and a crzy scraper (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1131937424.jpg) |
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TINCAN914 |
Nov 25 2005, 01:35 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I can get dry ice down the street, might be the cleanest. I will give it a shot, and post a little later. |
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Aaron Cox |
Nov 25 2005, 01:41 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
do it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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SirAndy |
Nov 25 2005, 01:50 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
heat gun is much easier if done right ... get a big putty knife and heat up large patches of the tar, like 10-15 square inches at a time. it'll come off in large chuncks with the putty knife. the trick is NOT to get it too hot so it melts, you just want it to be warm enough to flex and it'll come right off the floor ... dry ice is *much* more of a PITA ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Andy |
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TINCAN914 |
Nov 25 2005, 01:58 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Oh Andy I don't want to hear that.... Went and got the dry ice,should have stuck around.. ANyone know how long I should ltypically let the ice sit before going after it? Smackit a few times withthe hammer? I will give it a shot, and if it's a pain, then I will look at investing in a heat gun. |
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Chromatech |
Nov 25 2005, 02:00 PM
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Around here we wait and do the removal a winter project. It gets cold enough that it chips out quite easily (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I think the dry ice would work well. |
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TINCAN914 |
Nov 25 2005, 02:18 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
So far the ice aint workin....
Been sitting in the same spot for 15 minutes, nutting happening. I'm not a scientist, hell some days I wonder how I find my way home, (shut up) but I gave it a couple smacks, and nothing.. Any thoughs on how long it should sit there before the ice has an impact..? pun intended.. |
bd1308 |
Nov 25 2005, 02:25 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
dude..cut the dry ice up into little cube things that fit in the neck of a 20 ounce coke bottle...get some HOT water and pour it in the coke bottle as well as a few dry ice cubes....
put the cap on, dig a hole in the dirt VERY quickly throw bottle in cover it up and run..... BOOM!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) b |
TINCAN914 |
Nov 25 2005, 02:32 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Been there done that. Use to make PVC pipe bombs as well. Got in to much trouble doing stuff like that. Sure it's fun, but I'm trying to be productive today.. Not having much luck though...Someone toss me a bone here....? |
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bd1308 |
Nov 25 2005, 02:42 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i would get a heat gun.....
b |
SirAndy |
Nov 25 2005, 02:54 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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SpecialK |
Nov 25 2005, 02:57 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
Maybe throwing a blanket or towell over the dry ice will help put the cold where you want it to go. After the bottom of the floor pan gets frosty, try popping it with a mallet from the bottom (might not hurt to have the car sitting in its natural configuration...on jack stands, that way you can get a better swing at it). [disclaimer: I have no idea if the above tip will help as I've never tried it.......but it's a "bone" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) ) |
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