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| Gint |
 Dec 27 2005, 09:28 PM
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Mike Ginter  Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains   |
...at the same son of bosch post office as last time. Gawdam mother fuchin POS.
I'm gonna let it rot over there until morning. I drove it to work and back (topless). Let it site for a couple of hours, drove two miles over to the P.O. Was talking to Greg on the cell, started the car, let it idle while chatting for a few minutes and it died. Crank it over a bit and let off of the key and it fires a few times and quits. Over and over and over again. &W*^$*@#^$!!!! |
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| Joe Ricard |
Dec 27 2005, 09:34 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Gint you gotta drive it harder. Letting it idle just pisses it off.
Sorry I haven't kept up with your car. What are we looking at 6 with carbs? Did it flood out? What ignition do you got? Are you losin spark from bad connection at the coil. |
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| Gint |
Dec 27 2005, 09:38 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
naw, this is the "Budget 914" I bought for $2300. 73 2.0 beater. It's been running pretty well since replacing a intermittent fuel pump. D-Jet It's also had a full tune up, valve adjustment and filters. Drained the tank and everything.
POS is pissin me off. It's acting like it isn't getting fuel... again. I'll know tomorrow morning when I get back over there. If it won't start, I'll bet a $fiver that it will when I dump some fuel down the TB. |
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| rick 918-S |
Dec 27 2005, 10:00 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,493 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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Maybe a clue in what you posted. check the ignition switch. It may be failing. You posted (I think... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) ) Crank it over a bit and let off of the key and it fires a few times and quits. Over and over and over again.
Your switch could be shorting in the crank position. Just a thought. Do you still have points? Is the coil stock? Could be too much voltage to the points and now their fried. 99% of fuel related problems are electrical. |
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| Gint |
Dec 27 2005, 10:05 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
No, I hear ya Rick. But to be more specific, it fires like on 2 cylinders, and caughs, then on 2 again, and coughs, then on 2 again, for 3-5 times and then dies off. I don't think it's the ignition switch at all. It could well be that I have an electrical issue... at the pump. The ignotion seems to be doing it's job. I'll know more tomorrow morning. I just wanted to bitch more than anything else. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
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| Andyrew |
Dec 27 2005, 10:15 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Got enough gas in the tank?
Battery dead? Dwell set wrong? Dizzy off? Plugs burnt out? Fuel filter plugged? Injectors bad? Dont know if that helps.. but thats what I would check as well. |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 27 2005, 10:32 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
disconnect battery first!
then ... check fuel pump relay for corrossion (sp?). make sure it's clean and a tight fit. pry the prongs open if needed. check the large connector on the RB in the back, the one that goes into the main harness. take off the cover and inspect each prong. clean if needed. check wires and crimps/connectors at the fuel pump. check 4-prong white connector on RB that comes from the brain, make sure it's a tight fit and not corroded. this is where the brain controls the fuel pump. check large connector at brain check white wires from brain to RB and the injector grounds under the air filter. they all merge into one sigle splitter connector and can corrode and/or come lose. replace brain with a known to be good one ... just to get you started! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) Andy |
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| jhadler |
Dec 28 2005, 12:12 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Hey Gint,
That sucks! This was a warm re-start right? Did you try restarting cold? Did it smell like there was too much fuel? A bad HTS connection can do that... Let us know how it goes! -Josh2 |
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| swl |
Dec 28 2005, 12:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
fires on start, two cylinders then dies. Throttle points or the cable to them? Does it run if you feather the throttle?
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| Gint |
Dec 28 2005, 12:31 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I stopped over there this morning. Stone cold after sitting all night, still no startie... I even poured a little fuel into the TB, no joy. Now it doesn't fire at all. Looks like another AAA tow home. I hope I don't get another "sensitive" tow driver.
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| Trekkor |
Dec 28 2005, 01:04 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Not fun.
At least your 914 didn't break down on the way home from you own wedding, like mine did (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) KT |
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| maf914 |
Dec 28 2005, 01:32 PM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) I'm with Rick on this one. A failing ignition switch, the plastic insert portion, will exhibit similar behavior. It will start, then stall shortly after you release the key. Mines had two fail over the years with these symptoms. So.... If none of the other checks work out, don't discount the ignition switch. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) |
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| Toast |
Dec 28 2005, 01:45 PM
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Not bad for carrying sway bars. Group: Members Posts: 3,377 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 1,580 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hummm.........sounds like a familiar problem. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Have you cleaned your fuel filters? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Maybe it just doesn't like the Post Office. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
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| Bruce Allert |
Dec 28 2005, 03:02 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Even tho I got rid of mine cuz it left me stranded so many times... I had similar probs that seemed to go away after I installed a remote start button. I'd turn the key to the on position then hit the start button & it'd run better (yes, run & start better) than doing it with the key. dunno why (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
.....b |
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| dlo914 |
Dec 28 2005, 05:44 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
funny how my buddy and i were counting how many times and where his 914 had broken down over the past year...we ended up w/ about 7 locations (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) these cars are seriously an ADDICTION (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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| Mueller |
Dec 28 2005, 05:59 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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too bad we cannot "give" away our unused AAA tows...I still have 2 more left for the year..... |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Dec 28 2005, 06:01 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,731 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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I'm gonna say FI trigger points. Why? Cause I'm not good with FI, and that's my standard reply. Thing is the last five times I've helped diagnose a FI problem it was....you guessed it....FI TRIGGER POINTS! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
The other thing could be a bad fuel pump relay, or the pump itself. |
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| Gint |
Dec 28 2005, 07:27 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Oh well. It's only my daily driver when I want it to be. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) I was hoping to go over a week in December and even into the new year with the top off though. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
When I called AAA they said this was my last tow (thanks to the 914) for the annual billing periood (that doesn't renew until August). Then the kid says, "You're wife hasn't used any service calls. You could have her call it in." Good idea and it will save me one more tow for the period. Then when Shar calls they give her a bunch of grief. It looks like your husband already called about this. Duh. Anywho, this tow driver was a reasonable guy and didn't insist on using my axle shafts for his tie down chains. The car's home and I'll poke around tomorrow. I've never had a bad set of trigger points. But I do have a spare set. But I would think the engine would have at least fired when I poured some fuel down the TB. But it won't even do that now. I'm more inclined to think electrical at this point. I'll start with the basics tomorrow. |
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| Carl |
Dec 28 2005, 08:10 PM
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Ummm ... what? Group: Members Posts: 781 Joined: 17-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 163 Region Association: Northern California |
Hey Gint, push it into the PO and mail it to yourself. |
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| Gint |
Dec 28 2005, 08:43 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Hey thanks Carl... NOT! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
I'm not taking this 914 to that P.O. ever again. |
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