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> strange thing happened last night, my cars possessed
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post Jan 2 2006, 02:00 PM
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Ok so i went out to my car to take my gf home and i unlocked the door, opened the door and the fuel pump turned on whiel i still had the keys in my hand i shut the door and it wouldnt turn of i had to disconnect the battery to get it to quit. i havent looked into it yet and was wondering what you guys think.
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post Jan 2 2006, 02:25 PM
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just a guess...but it might be an electrical issue...

Take out the door switch...un plug it and see what happens.

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post Jan 2 2006, 02:45 PM
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Nope also looked at the connections to the dual relay to see if any were bent over and touching but no luck there. tried switching some of the relays around on the regulator plate no luck there either. i was wondering if there was a way to check the dual relay to see if it is burnt out.
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post Jan 2 2006, 02:59 PM
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open it up...thats what i did to see the condition of my Dual Relay.

did you try unplugging your AFM to see if the pump goes off ? Or that starter connection on the relay board with that thin yellow wire....spot II, or bottom right.

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post Jan 2 2006, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 12:00 PM)
i havent looked into it yet and was wondering what you guys think.

stock FI ??? if so, the brain is supposed to shut off the fuel pump after a few seconds. if that didn't happen, the power for the pump didn't come from the FI-Brain.

do you have any custom wiring?

was the car outside? water/moisture on the relay board?

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post Jan 2 2006, 03:15 PM
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yes the car is outside and we just had a big rainstorm. it is stock Ljet fi i dotn think there is any custom wiring done i tried to put it back to original as possible. wierd that you say the fuel pump should turn off after a few seconds if the car istn started cause it never has before once i turn the key on it just stays on.
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post Jan 2 2006, 03:19 PM
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must be wired up front...

mine was till i switched to a FI pump again...it started to melt my ignition switch.

I would say your fuel pump relay (#2/#3) is sticking.....

OR see if there are any *EXTRA* plugs are in the FI power area ( the 4-pin square plug thing) on the relay baord. If you ground out the low-left pin, the pump will run when the ignition is turned on.

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post Jan 2 2006, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 01:15 PM)
wierd that you say the fuel pump should turn off after a few seconds if the car istn started cause it never has before once i turn the key on it just stays on.

aha, L-Jet ... ok, forget about what i just said ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

still, i bet it's moisture ...
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post Jan 2 2006, 03:23 PM
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(hoping) shoudl it just go back to normal once it dries out or is my relay board fried
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post Jan 2 2006, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 01:23 PM)
(hoping) shoudl it just go back to normal once it dries out or is my relay board fried

there really isn't anything on your relay board to fry ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

as long as you didn't blow a fuse ...

i know nothing about L-Jet wiring so i can't really recommend a place to look, sorry ...
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post Jan 2 2006, 04:08 PM
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ok so i did some diggin (and some cleaning out of hell hole) and i foudn that my dual relay has power from the battery going to 2 points on the relay. i dont know the pin numbers. does anybody have a wiring guide for that relay. also once i took the spare power off my problem was seemingly fixed the fuel pump only turned on while the key is on. but now it still runs like crap im miss firing, due to what i have no idea. is the dual relay supposed to be hot while the car is running?
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post Jan 2 2006, 04:16 PM
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no the dual relay should not be hot to the touch. Mine barely gets warm.

Snap some pics...the wiring stuff is still fresh in my head.

you should have two places for battery power going to the dual relay...

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post Jan 2 2006, 05:08 PM
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i took a few pics mind you its very windy here and my parents decided to put in a tree that has a lot of littel leaves that get everywhere


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post Jan 2 2006, 05:09 PM
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post Jan 2 2006, 05:10 PM
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relay board again i removed that big silver box thing (what is that) to get a better pic. also what purpose does that yellow wire have that goes to the four connections on the left


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post Jan 2 2006, 05:17 PM
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that yellow wire tells L-jet to kick the fuel pump on when the starter is engaged.

The silver box is the Voltage Regulator.

Make real sure all of the connections are good, i noticed a repair crimp done to that one supply connection.

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post Jan 2 2006, 05:18 PM
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hold up, lemme get my haynes.

i think i see a problem.

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post Jan 2 2006, 05:20 PM
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yep.

that yellow wire should be on pin II, which is the lower right pin, not the upper right pin.

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post Jan 2 2006, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(OMB_Godfather @ Jan 2 2006, 12:00 PM)
i havent looked into it yet and was wondering what you guys think.

[QUOTE]

I think your car's possesed.

Your pics are giving me a head ache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 2 2006, 05:25 PM
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move the yellow wire to pin II,

and check that relay by temporarily replacing it with another relay....the headlight one is fine.

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