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dwillouby
post Jan 3 2006, 07:21 PM
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hello,

Been thinking about a new project. Has anyone driven a 914 over 200 mph?
Enough horsepower can be obtained with a V8. Might need turbos to keep the motor reasonable.
Aside from the required safety mods. any input on areo tricks would be helpful. I know a stock body tends to get very light at high speed. My stock bodied V8 conversion starts getting real skittish around 145.
Can this be done or am I nuts?

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post Jan 3 2006, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (dwillouby @ Jan 3 2006, 05:21 PM)
Can this be done or am I nuts?

anything can be done ... bring $$$ ...

where would you be able to drive the car at 200mph ???
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post Jan 3 2006, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jan 3 2006, 05:24 PM)
QUOTE (dwillouby @ Jan 3 2006, 05:21 PM)
Can this be done or am I nuts?

anything can be done ... bring $$$ ...

where would you be able to drive the car at 200mph ???
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Tell me where you could do it and what it would take....
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post Jan 3 2006, 07:47 PM
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I want the car semi streetable. There are events around the country that cater to this. Of course the entry must conform to rules and specs to compete. The biggest is speed week at Bonnyville. Its not uncommon to see a 200mph camero. I dont want a tube chassis but a stock based tub,rollcage, big brakes,pantera trans,ect.

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post Jan 3 2006, 07:50 PM
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El Mirage dry lake ( southern California timing association ) Bonneville salt flats, again an SCTA event, or Utah salt flat racing association. Rule books are available from Bonneville Nationals, Inc. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:04 PM
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Go to http://www.openroadracing.com looks like the place you want to be.
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:05 PM
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When I get my car painted, it will do 200 sitting still. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

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post Jan 3 2006, 08:07 PM
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Build one like this....



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post Jan 3 2006, 08:22 PM
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lighter doesn't mean better top speed. Remember that when your doing body work. NO FENDER FLARES!!!! those things kill your aero. You can pack 7 inch tires under the stock body work. Next, get a sheet of fiberglass to cover the whole bottom of your car from the front bumper to the rear of your car. Ferrari does this with dimpled aluminum. Feel free to dimple your fiberglass. Get rid of your rear bumper. Find the smallest front bumper with a spoiler. The pointier the nose comes to, the better. Drop your front ride hight as low as possible with out dragging in the corners. Drop the rear to about as low as the front, but just a little higher.

Read the forum about the vortex generators. That'll help.

If NASCAR could do it the you sure as hell can.
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:23 PM
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Depending on how aerodynamically clean you can make a 914 so it generates no more than a reasonable amount of lift (say, under 500lbs total) at 200mph, then you'll need to make at least 500hp to overcome the aero drag to hit that speed. At those kinds of speeds, any losses (rolling resistance, driveline drag, bearing drag) start to make a big difference, so 600-700hp is more likely to get you past the 200mph mark than "only" 500. Getting that kind of power out of an SBC is certainly doable, but still pretty expensive.

Then there's the gearing problem...

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post Jan 3 2006, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (dwillouby @ Jan 3 2006, 08:21 PM)

Can this be done or am I nuts?


I think you're nuts, but I'd still like to see you try!
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:38 PM
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I'll bet he could do it with 500.

It'll just take time and effort. And cash.

And one of my new langchek rear trunklids that i've been working on. No pics yet. TOP SECRET.
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:45 PM
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It has been done.

There was an article in Excellence about 2 or 3 years ago on the Kremer (I think) 914-6 GT. Some guy named something like "Von K" bought in the 70's and highly modified it. Managed 194 on the back straight at Riverside.

I have a copy of the article. I will look it up and scan it tomorrow at my office and post it on this link.

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post Jan 3 2006, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE (alpha434 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:38 PM)
I'll bet he could do it with 500.

It'll just take time and effort. And cash.

And one of my new langchek rear trunklids that i've been working on. No pics yet. TOP SECRET.

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post Jan 3 2006, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (Headrage @ Jan 3 2006, 06:47 PM)

Who are you???

I've been thinking the same thing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:56 PM
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Ive been over 200 in this brick (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) talk about pushing a brick through the air..IMSA course at Pocono

sorry I know its not a 914 but hey 200 is 200 does.. We change the aero package at every track. I admit we are probably going backwards, but hey its fun and fast!




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post Jan 3 2006, 08:57 PM
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hehe just noticed how much the rear wing is deflecting.. have to stiffen that element up
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (ken914 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:45 PM)
It has been done.

There was an article in Excellence about 2 or 3 years ago on the Kremer (I think) 914-6 GT. Some guy named something like "Von K" bought in the 70's and highly modified it. Managed 194 on the back straight at Riverside.

I have a copy of the article. I will look it up and scan it tomorrow at my office and post it on this link.

Ken



I talked to the son of "Von K". He had a store here in Los Gatos. When he saw my 914 he told me all about his father taking a 914-6 GT and super modifying it with twin turbos etc. It went fast as hell and he got up to almost 200 in it. He sold it in eventually and bought another car to highly modify.

His father still auto crosses.
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:51 PM)
QUOTE (Headrage @ Jan 3 2006, 06:47 PM)

Who are you???

I've been thinking the same thing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

Jeeze guys, whats the problem?!? It's just too cold to jack with my own car so i sit around here and make y'all sweat a little.

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post Jan 3 2006, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 3 2006, 07:07 PM)
Build one like this....

seen that car go!!! at el mirage...... very cool sight.

i think it had a rotary in it....
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