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200 mph 914 |
dwillouby |
Jan 3 2006, 07:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Mt Washington, KY Member No.: 29 Region Association: None |
hello,
Been thinking about a new project. Has anyone driven a 914 over 200 mph? Enough horsepower can be obtained with a V8. Might need turbos to keep the motor reasonable. Aside from the required safety mods. any input on areo tricks would be helpful. I know a stock body tends to get very light at high speed. My stock bodied V8 conversion starts getting real skittish around 145. Can this be done or am I nuts? Thanks David |
SirAndy |
Jan 3 2006, 07:24 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,677 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
anything can be done ... bring $$$ ... where would you be able to drive the car at 200mph ??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Andy |
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Allan |
Jan 3 2006, 07:33 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Tell me where you could do it and what it would take.... |
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dwillouby |
Jan 3 2006, 07:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Mt Washington, KY Member No.: 29 Region Association: None |
I want the car semi streetable. There are events around the country that cater to this. Of course the entry must conform to rules and specs to compete. The biggest is speed week at Bonnyville. Its not uncommon to see a 200mph camero. I dont want a tube chassis but a stock based tub,rollcage, big brakes,pantera trans,ect.
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flatout |
Jan 3 2006, 07:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 3-May 04 From: southeast missouri Member No.: 2,018 |
El Mirage dry lake ( southern California timing association ) Bonneville salt flats, again an SCTA event, or Utah salt flat racing association. Rule books are available from Bonneville Nationals, Inc. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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boxstr |
Jan 3 2006, 08:04 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Go to http://www.openroadracing.com looks like the place you want to be.
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URY914 |
Jan 3 2006, 08:05 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
When I get my car painted, it will do 200 sitting still. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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URY914 |
Jan 3 2006, 08:07 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Build one like this....
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alpha434 |
Jan 3 2006, 08:22 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
lighter doesn't mean better top speed. Remember that when your doing body work. NO FENDER FLARES!!!! those things kill your aero. You can pack 7 inch tires under the stock body work. Next, get a sheet of fiberglass to cover the whole bottom of your car from the front bumper to the rear of your car. Ferrari does this with dimpled aluminum. Feel free to dimple your fiberglass. Get rid of your rear bumper. Find the smallest front bumper with a spoiler. The pointier the nose comes to, the better. Drop your front ride hight as low as possible with out dragging in the corners. Drop the rear to about as low as the front, but just a little higher.
Read the forum about the vortex generators. That'll help. If NASCAR could do it the you sure as hell can. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) Stupid American Beasts |
lapuwali |
Jan 3 2006, 08:23 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Depending on how aerodynamically clean you can make a 914 so it generates no more than a reasonable amount of lift (say, under 500lbs total) at 200mph, then you'll need to make at least 500hp to overcome the aero drag to hit that speed. At those kinds of speeds, any losses (rolling resistance, driveline drag, bearing drag) start to make a big difference, so 600-700hp is more likely to get you past the 200mph mark than "only" 500. Getting that kind of power out of an SBC is certainly doable, but still pretty expensive.
Then there's the gearing problem... |
riverman |
Jan 3 2006, 08:35 PM
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Learn As I Go Group: Members Posts: 449 Joined: 18-January 05 From: Kitchener, ON Member No.: 3,466 |
I think you're nuts, but I'd still like to see you try! |
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alpha434 |
Jan 3 2006, 08:38 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'll bet he could do it with 500.
It'll just take time and effort. And cash. And one of my new langchek rear trunklids that i've been working on. No pics yet. TOP SECRET. |
ken914 |
Jan 3 2006, 08:45 PM
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Whole lot 'O 914/6 Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 15-November 04 From: Mount Pleasant, SC Member No.: 3,122 |
It has been done.
There was an article in Excellence about 2 or 3 years ago on the Kremer (I think) 914-6 GT. Some guy named something like "Von K" bought in the 70's and highly modified it. Managed 194 on the back straight at Riverside. I have a copy of the article. I will look it up and scan it tomorrow at my office and post it on this link. Ken |
Allan |
Jan 3 2006, 08:47 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Who are you??? |
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URY914 |
Jan 3 2006, 08:51 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,038 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I've been thinking the same thing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
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TimT |
Jan 3 2006, 08:56 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Ive been over 200 in this brick (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) talk about pushing a brick through the air..IMSA course at Pocono
sorry I know its not a 914 but hey 200 is 200 does.. We change the aero package at every track. I admit we are probably going backwards, but hey its fun and fast! Attached image(s) |
TimT |
Jan 3 2006, 08:57 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
hehe just noticed how much the rear wing is deflecting.. have to stiffen that element up
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olav |
Jan 3 2006, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,107 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Los Gatos, CA. USA Member No.: 34 Region Association: None |
I talked to the son of "Von K". He had a store here in Los Gatos. When he saw my 914 he told me all about his father taking a 914-6 GT and super modifying it with twin turbos etc. It went fast as hell and he got up to almost 200 in it. He sold it in eventually and bought another car to highly modify. His father still auto crosses. |
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alpha434 |
Jan 3 2006, 09:09 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Jeeze guys, whats the problem?!? It's just too cold to jack with my own car so i sit around here and make y'all sweat a little. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) Now is this a ninja? Or is it a terrorist? |
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Aaron Cox |
Jan 3 2006, 09:11 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
seen that car go!!! at el mirage...... very cool sight. i think it had a rotary in it.... |
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