 Refinishing Fog Light bodies, Help me out here |
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| Pat Garvey |
 Jul 23 2006, 07:04 PM
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Do I or don't I...........?  Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States  |
Since I like to have at least 2 of everything, just picked up some fogs that need refinishing. Rear shells appear to have been media blasted (not sure which media, but they have a crystaline finish). Lenses & seals are brand new & with proper re-finishing of the shells will be better than my orig's.
Questions are: ( & I don't want to remove my orig's to gat the answers - lazy!) Outer rear shells - satin, glossy? Inside of rear shells - same, if they were finished at all. Other - the outer front sealing rings appear to be painted brass! Can that be, or is it a cad plaiting under the paint? Attached image(s) 
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| davep |
Jul 24 2006, 11:30 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,208 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada  |
I believe the paint finish is glossy.
The rings are brass. |
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| Pat Garvey |
Jul 24 2006, 05:06 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(davep @ Jul 24 2006, 01:30 PM)  I believe the paint finish is glossy. The rings are brass. Yep, the rings look like brass & I'm not worried about them - they'll be easy to refinish. The bodies are a bit of a problem. The PO appears to have had them media blasted, which took off all the paint & left a grainy finish. I can get rid of the grainy finish, but want to certain whether to use a gloss or satin finish. I don't need these things, but someone else will & I'd like to present them properly. Any other comments? |
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| Bleyseng |
Jul 24 2006, 07:29 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I quickly looked at a nice set I have stashed and they appear to be a satin body with glossly rings (brass showing thru).
Most of the sets of fogs I have seen are pretty rusty. |
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| Pat Garvey |
Jul 24 2006, 07:47 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Jul 24 2006, 09:29 PM) I quickly looked at a nice set I have stashed and they appear to be a satin body with glossly rings (brass showing thru). Most of the sets of fogs I have seen are pretty rusty. THANK YOU - exactly what I thought, just wanted verification. Now I'll go to work. |
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| Bleyseng |
Jul 25 2006, 08:43 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
PM Korijo as he got a set of NOS foglites off Ebay. He should still have them.
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| Pat Garvey |
Aug 7 2006, 07:58 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
The set I'm re-doing is very nice, with new lenses, but has some pitting on the rear of the bodies.
I won't have them sandblasted, because the pitting is near the mounting hardware, which is perfect & I don't want to destroy it. I CAN grind it off with a Dremel, but it's messy & takes time. I'm wondering about POR-15. Will this stuff fill in the pits and, if so, how paintable is it after it sets? Though I haven't used it before, I am aware of the "skin" pitfalls of this product. Anyone care to offer they're .02? |
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| John |
Aug 9 2006, 12:38 AM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
The best set I have ever owned (which are on my car now) were as described; satin backs and glossy rings.
They have never been altered, so I believe the finish is original as well. Definately not gloss black. |
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| 914runnow |
Aug 9 2006, 08:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jul 23 2006, 05:04 PM) Since I like to have at least 2 of everything, just picked up some fogs that need refinishing. Rear shells appear to have been media blasted (not sure which media, but they have a crystaline finish). Lenses & seals are brand new & with proper re-finishing of the shells will be better than my orig's. Questions are: ( & I don't want to remove my orig's to gat the answers - lazy!) Outer rear shells - satin, glossy? Inside of rear shells - same, if they were finished at all. Other - the outer front sealing rings appear to be painted brass! Can that be, or is it a cad plaiting under the paint? Sorry have been under the overtime rock:::: Anyway I have my New NOS set here.. But before that... From the factory>>The shells were painted before the 'mount was rivited to them'..... ANYWAY had some 'baked' to remove excess paint at the powder coaters.. EVEN though I told them not to.. Got the shells back beautifully powder coated... WITH THE MOUNT MELTED OFF!!!!!! You can use your Wenol or semi chrome on the mounts.. And mask off the mount and use a 'Satin Gloss Black' on both the ring and the body.. As that is what is in my hand #91463113411..... BTW....your car is a 72 early????? 70/71 had the 'Cross Bar Flutted lens'...which has been S/S to the non xbar flutted ......(vertical lines only)... Stock OEM bulb was always Phillips #12227 35 watt.. Porsche # 90063113090 Any questions on the hardware that mounts to the car?? Oh and how are yah?? |
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| Bleyseng |
Aug 10 2006, 08:19 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here is a photo of my good set of fogs. I use the pilot driving lite conversion on my car so these are in storage. They do have the halogen bulbs in them
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| Pat Garvey |
Aug 10 2006, 07:31 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(914runnow @ Aug 9 2006, 10:50 PM) QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jul 23 2006, 05:04 PM) Since I like to have at least 2 of everything, just picked up some fogs that need refinishing. Rear shells appear to have been media blasted (not sure which media, but they have a crystaline finish). Lenses & seals are brand new & with proper re-finishing of the shells will be better than my orig's. Questions are: ( & I don't want to remove my orig's to gat the answers - lazy!) Outer rear shells - satin, glossy? Inside of rear shells - same, if they were finished at all. Other - the outer front sealing rings appear to be painted brass! Can that be, or is it a cad plaiting under the paint? Sorry have been under the overtime rock:::: Anyway I have my New NOS set here.. But before that... From the factory>>The shells were painted before the 'mount was rivited to them'..... ANYWAY had some 'baked' to remove excess paint at the powder coaters.. EVEN though I told them not to.. Got the shells back beautifully powder coated... WITH THE MOUNT MELTED OFF!!!!!! You can use your Wenol or semi chrome on the mounts.. And mask off the mount and use a 'Satin Gloss Black' on both the ring and the body.. As that is what is in my hand #91463113411..... BTW....your car is a 72 early????? 70/71 had the 'Cross Bar Flutted lens'...which has been S/S to the non xbar flutted ......(vertical lines only)... Stock OEM bulb was always Phillips #12227 35 watt.. Porsche # 90063113090 Any questions on the hardware that mounts to the car?? Oh and how are yah?? Hradware & lenses are perfect, but the bcks have some pitting. As to how am I, I was Dremeling (if that's a word) the back of one of them todat & as I was reaching for my goggles got zapped in the eye by a piece of ? Thanks for aasking - I'm off to the Ophthamologist tomorrow morning. Never had blood coming out of an eye! |
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| Eric_Shea |
Aug 12 2006, 01:51 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
I chromed a set for the vents on my early 911. Here's some pics that might help:
Inside paint.  Chromed (not applicable I know...flog me with a Q-tip)  |
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| Eric_Shea |
Aug 12 2006, 01:53 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Just read the last post. Hope you're OK Pat.
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| Eric_Shea |
Aug 12 2006, 01:56 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I took my mounts off with said Dremel(er)
 Then I bead blasted them with 80 glass  Other side...  |
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| Pat Garvey |
Aug 12 2006, 05:26 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 12 2006, 03:56 PM) I took my mounts off with said Dremel(er) Then I bead blasted them with 80 glass Other side... Hey Eric! Thanks for the concern - eye is good now. Quick trip to the Optho to remove a fairly large piece of iron oxide from a 1/4 inch outside of the lens! Stupid, stupid, stupid! And my goggles were on my head! Those chromies are gorgeous & will really show nicely on your 911. You showed how you removed the mount rivets, but what type of rivet did you use for re-mounting them - tha's a really hardcore rivet the manufacturer used! Pat |
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| Pat Garvey |
Aug 26 2006, 07:21 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 12 2006, 07:26 PM) QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 12 2006, 03:56 PM) I took my mounts off with said Dremel(er) Then I bead blasted them with 80 glass Other side... Hey Eric! Thanks for the concern - eye is good now. Quick trip to the Optho to remove a fairly large piece of iron oxide from a 1/4 inch outside of the lens! Stupid, stupid, stupid! And my goggles were on my head! Those chromies are gorgeous & will really show nicely on your 911. You showed how you removed the mount rivets, but what type of rivet did you use for re-mounting them - tha's a really hardcore rivet the manufacturer used! Pat Hey Eric - I re-ask my question about replacement rivets! Pat |
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| Pat Garvey |
 Sep 27 2006, 08:17 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 26 2006, 09:21 PM) QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 12 2006, 07:26 PM) QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 12 2006, 03:56 PM) I took my mounts off with said Dremel(er) Then I bead blasted them with 80 glass Other side... Hey Eric! Thanks for the concern - eye is good now. Quick trip to the Optho to remove a fairly large piece of iron oxide from a 1/4 inch outside of the lens! Stupid, stupid, stupid! And my goggles were on my head! Those chromies are gorgeous & will really show nicely on your 911. You showed how you removed the mount rivets, but what type of rivet did you use for re-mounting them - tha's a really hardcore rivet the manufacturer used! Pat Hey Eric - I re-ask my question about replacement rivets! Pat Umm, Eric - one more try - what did you use for a replacement rivet? |
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| 914runnow |
Sep 28 2006, 10:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Sep 27 2006, 06:17 PM) QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 26 2006, 09:21 PM) QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Aug 12 2006, 07:26 PM) QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 12 2006, 03:56 PM) I took my mounts off with said Dremel(er) Then I bead blasted them with 80 glass Other side... Hey Eric! Thanks for the concern - eye is good now. Quick trip to the Optho to remove a fairly large piece of iron oxide from a 1/4 inch outside of the lens! Stupid, stupid, stupid! And my goggles were on my head! Those chromies are gorgeous & will really show nicely on your 911. You showed how you removed the mount rivets, but what type of rivet did you use for re-mounting them - tha's a really hardcore rivet the manufacturer used! Pat Hey Eric - I re-ask my question about replacement rivets! Pat Umm, Eric - one more try - what did you use for a replacement rivet? Hey Pat..He just did RRC with fam..as it looks like with pics.. Prolly contact him directly... Thanx Rx (ps ..I would like to know too??) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Oct 12 2006, 06:16 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Sorry Pat... more pics might help. I didn't have a thread reminder. Sorry again.
Looks like the head size is 7mm and they are either bright plated or chromed. I would imagine plated.  Here it shows the rivet out...  |
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| Eric_Shea |
Oct 12 2006, 06:20 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I found different lens patterns and heights as well... something to be aware of.
Pattern:  Height:  |
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