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Motor choices..., Too many options!! |
rtalich |
Oct 12 2006, 08:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Bellevue, WA Member No.: 6,913 Region Association: None |
So far I've seen/heard/read about the 2056 and 2270 type 4 motors. What about the 2165? What bore/stroke combo would this be?
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MoveQik |
Oct 12 2006, 08:56 PM
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What size wheels can I fit? Group: Members Posts: 4,645 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 3,881 Region Association: Southwest Region |
3.2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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914werke |
Oct 12 2006, 09:02 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,138 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
lets back up...what motor do you have now?
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bd1308 |
Oct 12 2006, 09:02 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
what abotu the 1911..?
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914werke |
Oct 12 2006, 09:04 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,138 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Britt were on the same wavelengh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Ive been driving mine the last couple of days and I must say...SWEET! |
rtalich |
Oct 12 2006, 09:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Bellevue, WA Member No.: 6,913 Region Association: None |
What???
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anthony |
Oct 12 2006, 09:22 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
I'm pretty sure a 2165 is a Type I engine. Here's a chart of Torque curves I've made for a tired 2L, stock 2L, 2056, and 2270. The 2056 is nice bump but the 2270 is in a whole other league.
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brant |
Oct 12 2006, 09:32 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
My preference is the 1991.
This is at 5000ft altitude, and 104 degree's F. If it were adjusted to flywheel and altitude/temp... I'm thinking around 175HP Attached thumbnail(s) |
brant |
Oct 12 2006, 09:38 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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TROJANMAN |
Oct 12 2006, 09:45 PM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
but that's a 6.
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bd1308 |
Oct 12 2006, 09:47 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
Rich, you and me were on the same wavelength?
1911 is one torquey beast from what i hear. |
Trekkor |
Oct 12 2006, 10:01 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
In the future... We'll all have SIXES
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brant |
Oct 13 2006, 06:49 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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Bleyseng |
Oct 13 2006, 08:13 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Rob has a 2.0L....
2056 is a nice bump in hp/torque and won't break the bank, figure 'bout 110-115hp won't break your wallet either- $3500/5000 2270 is a big jump somewhere in the 130 to 170 hp range depending on the combo and starts at 'bout $5k 1911 is a cheap ass motor that whimps run when they don't have any money. you can do a six for less than $5k if you steal half the parts at night off parked 911's |
914werke |
Oct 13 2006, 08:30 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,138 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Hey Geoff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)
Britt not so much. Short stroke + big bore = rev'er Having both the 2.0 has more torque Dont get me wrong still a good combo! |
TROJANMAN |
Oct 13 2006, 09:19 AM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
Suby, Suby, Suby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
But i think i want my next car to be a V8 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) |
Matt Meyer |
Oct 13 2006, 09:45 AM
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Überlurker Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Eastern Washington Member No.: 1,411 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
To actually answer your question it looks like a 2165 would be a 94x78 so a stroked 2.0 liter. I haven't heard of one before. It should have good torque. Why not go to a 2176 with a 78.4 stroke? I assume you are going to try and save $$$ by reusing the 94mm p&c.
Mostly you hear of 2056 and 2270 which are 96 bore and 71mm (stock2.0) or 78.4 stroke respectively. You can find different combinations you could make here: Type IV Engine Displacement Bore vs. Stroke |
grantsfo |
Oct 13 2006, 10:11 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
In the future... We'll all have SIXES .....Assimilate. (IMG:http://www.digitkit.com/attachedimages/Borg%20PartyDSC_3387_2_medium.jpg) |
anthony |
Oct 13 2006, 10:17 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
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TJB/914 |
Oct 13 2006, 10:21 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,336 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Here's my opinion on motors.
The problem is the F.I. system & electrical systems on a 30-year plus car. If someone would repo a replacement (reasonable) F.I. system for our 4-cyl motor no one would be talking about replacing type-!V motor's. Of course many would still do 6's & Stuby's. etc, but the real problem is the electrical system & F.I. system. Replacement parts are getting scarce & that's the reason many look at alternate(modern/new) power plants. I would like to have a 6-cyl, chevy V/8 or Stuby motor, but it's not practical $$ wise. Find a reasonable $$ new replacement F.I. sytems for our stock motors and many will stay with their stock motor. I'll keep looking at Raby's motor's & hope someone comes out with a new (repo) Type-4 replacement F.I. System to fit my motor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Read the tea leaves, Raby motor's will be the choice (best dollar value) motor for the future value of 914's. Raby motor's are the only real current choice. He has a lock on the market (don't tell him) with all his available upgrades & improvements. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) It's a good value. Tom |
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