[NPC] Thoughts on a squareback, what is the consensus on this car? |
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[NPC] Thoughts on a squareback, what is the consensus on this car? |
erikstoll |
Dec 27 2006, 03:20 PM
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Just Another Roadside Attraction Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Reno, Nevada, USA - The Biggest Little City In The World Member No.: 5,210 |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=399043
comments, etc? im new to the idea of purchasing one, but it doenst seem to be in too terrible of shape. Thanks Erik |
ws91420 |
Dec 27 2006, 03:25 PM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Not much info there. No wires on the engine. Need to see what shape the floor pans are like under that carpet.
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erikstoll |
Dec 27 2006, 03:27 PM
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Just Another Roadside Attraction Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Reno, Nevada, USA - The Biggest Little City In The World Member No.: 5,210 |
Not much info there. No wires on the engine. Need to see what shape the floor pans are like under that carpet. no wires on the engine means...? wont be running or? sorry, i dont know much about stuff like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
ws91420 |
Dec 27 2006, 03:33 PM
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Yes I have one a Lensley 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,063 Joined: 10-September 03 From: Ruther Glen,VA (halfway between sticks and civilization) Member No.: 1,137 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
no wires from the distributor cap to plugs so the engine will not run in that state. so no telling when the motor actually last run.
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erikstoll |
Dec 27 2006, 03:34 PM
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Just Another Roadside Attraction Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Reno, Nevada, USA - The Biggest Little City In The World Member No.: 5,210 |
no wires from the distributor cap to plugs so the engine will not run in that state. so no telling when the motor actually last run. good to know, that would be a nice fun tow back to reno (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
r_towle |
Dec 27 2006, 04:31 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
look harder, you should be able to find a running driver for that kind of money.
Like a 914, they suck to get parts for, so buy two. Rich |
erikstoll |
Dec 27 2006, 04:35 PM
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Just Another Roadside Attraction Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Reno, Nevada, USA - The Biggest Little City In The World Member No.: 5,210 |
look harder, you should be able to find a running driver for that kind of money. Like a 914, they suck to get parts for, so buy two. Rich not what i wanted to hear living in an apartment and all.... dmanit guess ill wait till i move into a house w/ the car obsessed g/f this summer |
r_towle |
Dec 27 2006, 04:40 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
let me be more specific, and it might make you feel better..
The interior is unique. front seats are from the beetle, sometimes... the Exterior body is unique. the driveline, front suspension (to a point) and the rest of the car is from the beetle or bus or ghia parts bin. Motor is bus, sometime with djet..sometimes carbs. So, find a car with a nice body and a really nice interior... For me the interior would be key, the body can be fixed, but the interior would end up costing big bucks.. Rich |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Dec 27 2006, 05:30 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
Run away! Water leaks and no air filters on engine = shortened lifespan. Way too much work needed on that one...
Lurk on the vwtype3.org email list (it's free!). Maybe ask questions, too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Dec 27 2006, 05:43 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
let me be more specific, and it might make you feel better.. The interior is unique. front seats are from the beetle, sometimes... Nope. Seats are T3 only. Except 1973 (last year car was produced) where the seats are unique to the T3...but first year Golf seats will bolt right in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE the driveline, front suspension (to a point) and the rest of the car is from the beetle or bus or ghia parts bin. Front suspension is T3. Fan housing and cooling tin is T3. No T2 (Bus) parts. Tranny nose cone is T3. Tranny is basically a T1 unit but with different gearing, of course, for the "bigger" motor. Some parts are T1 (easily found) and many are T3 only. QUOTE Motor is bus, sometime with djet..sometimes carbs. No. Motor is closer to the T1 (Bug) except for the cooling tin and fan housing. All USA models came with FI (fuel injection), D-jet. European (includes Canada) came with carbs or FI. Owning a decent T3 can be as much work as owning a 914...I own both so I can make the comparison (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Both can get on your nerves and be a tad spendy until everything gets ironed out. The T3 won't handle like the 914 nor go as quickly but the 914 won't carry you, the family, and all your camping gear off-road for the weekend. Each has their place. If you are comfy with the 914 4-cylinder engine then you'll find the T3 engine/tranny a piece of cake! More space, easier and cheaper to provide hp enhancements, and dropping the engine is waaaaay easier than a teener...but what isn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Dec 28 2006, 09:58 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,085 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
keep looking. i think the blue 71' pictured on p.3 would be a much better car for not much more money.
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ThinAir |
Dec 28 2006, 10:46 AM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,543 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Since Toby owns both, he's clearly got the most intimate knowledge of these things. My own sentiment is that unless you are already into Squarebacks, this is a good one to pass on.
If you really want a Squareback,I have an acquaintance there in Flagstaff that had one for sale last Fall. I don't know if he still has it, but I can ask. He was asking something like $2300. It had been recently repainted and ran well. The interior had a few issues, but nothing that you couldn't live with and get to when you felt comfortable. The thing about Squarebacks (and Fastbacks) is that the front end changed (in 70 or 71). Early models had round "bullet" turn signals and a more rounded nose. The early models are the better looking (IMHO) and are more desireable for those who are into these cars. I would have bought that Squareback myself except that it was a late model and I really don't have a place for yet another car (too many 914s already). |
hmeeder |
Dec 28 2006, 11:24 AM
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Dante's Sportscar Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 21-November 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 3,154 |
IMHO you'd also want to swap transmissions.
Those automatics were crap and the car couldn't get out of it's own way downhill with a tailwind. |
kdfoust |
Dec 28 2006, 11:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 694 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Riverside Member No.: 71 Region Association: Southern California |
What was the deal with the automatic in those cars? I dated a girl in high school who... Uh, wait, wrong story.
I remember this 411 that a neighbor had. It seemed like they were always wrestling with the shifter when driving but it was an automatic...were those automatic clutch trannies like the sportomatic? Later, Kevin PS - I browse 411 on the samba myself. It must be because of that girl in high school... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
erikstoll |
Dec 28 2006, 02:32 PM
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Just Another Roadside Attraction Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Reno, Nevada, USA - The Biggest Little City In The World Member No.: 5,210 |
I just want to thank you all for all the help and information, you guys seriously kick ass.
I dont know what I would do without such a great group of folks to get knowledgeable advice from on cars such as these. |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Dec 28 2006, 06:02 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
... I remember this 411 that a neighbor had. It seemed like they were always wrestling with the shifter when driving but it was an automatic...were those automatic clutch trannies like the sportomatic?... The T3 used a TRUE automatic transaxle, NOT the auto-stick like that of the Bug. And the T3 automatic shifts smoothly and works very well...when maintained...just like any other car. My girlfriend liked my T3 automatic better than her 2002 Passat 2.0t automatic. My friend Brian has an automatic T4 and it shifts even more smoothly. The automatic tranny can handle upto +200hp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And being Borg-Warner inside means you can still get parts. The T3 automatic I used to own: http://www.icbm.org/cmgallery/thumbnails.php?album=29 More details on her: http://www.icbm.org/erkson/personal/vw_auto_72/ |
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