Fresh, Reman 1.7 longblock, Where do I get one? |
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Fresh, Reman 1.7 longblock, Where do I get one? |
warrenporsche |
Feb 20 2007, 09:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
I have tried the search funtion and I must not know what to ask for!! Does anyone know where I can get a Fresh reman'ed 1.7 longblock to rebuild my stock engine on? and how much should it cost? any input appriciated!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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jd74914 |
Feb 20 2007, 09:34 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,782 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Why do you need one? Why not just have your existing case (or another used case) checked out and line bored if necessary. The use new P&cs.
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G e o r g e |
Feb 20 2007, 09:42 AM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None |
your question is a little confusing a long block is basically the whole engine, less the external parts.... is this what you are looking for?
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McMark |
Feb 20 2007, 10:23 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Because all the parts are the same when building these engines building a stock 1.7 motor is within a few hundred dollars of building a 2056. It's a common misconception that displacement = $ on stockish rebuilds. The only difference between a 1.7 build and a 2056 build is the size of the pistons and which crank you have in your hand to put in the case. If you really need a 1.7 for competitive purposes (AX or Concours) then you need to turn to the usual suspects for a quality rebuilt motor.
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warrenporsche |
Feb 20 2007, 10:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
I am keeping my stock FI. I just want to get all the bearings replaced and make sure the case is true before I put it back in A well known guy here in atlanta who shall remain nameless has quoted me $4500.oo to go through my longblock and freshen it up before re-install. so I am just looking for a more practical source I suppose. If I cannot get it done cheaper than that, the I will just have to do it myself I guess. I figured someone in this community might do that type of thing.
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Chris Pincetich |
Feb 20 2007, 10:54 AM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
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It's kinda frustrating in that sense, because if it was cheap to rebuild the 1.7 I would...it makes more sense to go big with a little more planning and $$. Mark- would a 2056 with Raby cam, Djet, and and 1.7 heads be a bad idea? The 2.0 heads or rebuild bigger heads are a big $$$ obstacle. I'm thinking that this combo, wiht the right cam could produce good low end torque, good mpg, and perform well below 6k rpm. 2.0 heads cost more than a running, complete 1.7 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I'm putting together my list of little 914 bits to email to you today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
warrenporsche |
Feb 20 2007, 11:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
Umm, I don't want to come off as a CW but I really just want a fresh, solid 1.7 like the car would have had new. I guess I can do it myself and have a machine shop do all the really detailed stuff, will I need any special tools to do this at home? besides the run of the mill mechanic's tools?
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r_towle |
Feb 20 2007, 11:05 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Try Bob at Boston Engine Exchange.
Try google to find him. Rich |
anthony |
Feb 20 2007, 11:17 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
but I really just want a fresh, solid 1.7 like the car would have had new. Why a 1.7 though when you can get a lot more power using a few modern ideas (cam/valvetrain)? You leave a monstrous amount of torque on the table. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-218-1165280832.jpg) If you want to do it yourself, check out Aircooledtechnology's kits. The 2056 is affordable and gives you a lot of bang for the buck. http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/home.php?cat=308 |
blitZ |
Feb 20 2007, 11:23 AM
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Beer please... Group: Members Posts: 2,223 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Lawrenceville, GA Member No.: 4,719 Region Association: South East States |
I recently refreshed my own 2.0, it was a good educational project as I learned a lot about my car. I went with 96mm p/c and a Raby cam. You might want to consider the same. The engine will look the same, but have needed extra power. I'll be happy to take you for a spin, might change your mind.
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anthony |
Feb 20 2007, 12:16 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
At least do a 1911 with a better cam. You should be able to freshen your whole engine into a 1911 for less than $2000.
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warrenporsche |
Feb 20 2007, 02:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
The 1911 sounds like a viable option, does anyone sell a kit with all the bearings, seals, whatever in one box ( minus the p/c)?
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blitZ |
Feb 20 2007, 03:37 PM
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Beer please... Group: Members Posts: 2,223 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Lawrenceville, GA Member No.: 4,719 Region Association: South East States |
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Bleyseng |
Feb 20 2007, 09:06 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The 1911 sounds like a viable option, does anyone sell a kit with all the bearings, seals, whatever in one box ( minus the p/c)? No, finding the parts to rebuild a 1700 is pretty easy. The domed pistons are really hard to locate but Pelican Parts listed them recently. Building a 1911 using the 1700 heads is ok if you have the heads rebuilt with bigger valves (42x36) and use the 9550 cam. You'll make good power with this combo. |
warrenporsche |
Feb 20 2007, 09:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Winston, GA Member No.: 5,456 |
I have found a company called importmotor.com that I have contacted about sending me one, it will be around $1800 because I will be keeping my oringial motor- I cannot bare to part with it as a core! It may seem a little silly that I don't want to go through the bottom end right now, but I would REALLY like to keep this resto down to ONE year and get back to driving the thing!! I guess I thought this would be a pretty common item that falls outta trees since VW guys come across thiers so easy, If I get the motor from these folks I will let you all know how it runs
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G e o r g e |
Feb 20 2007, 10:10 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None |
i would do a search on Import motor on here and pelican and old club site. you might find that your 1800$ is going to be wasted............... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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Al Meredith |
Feb 20 2007, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 960 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 3,061 |
Warren, I PMed you Al
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