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I thought an engine fell on me! |
computers4kids |
Aug 26 2007, 10:11 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
Holly Moly! I was stripping my latest uggly duckling project and finally got to unbolting the bumpers. OK...never took off bumpers on a late 914...cool just unplug harness and two bolts...wow how easy. Put my air racket to work and then it happended...it felt like an engine fell on me!!! Holy Crap! Those bumpers are heavy...I need a bigger motor! I've always heard people mention that they were heavier but had no idea what a differnce than the earlier bumpers. I'm going to have to ad NOS to this 1.8. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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JPB |
Aug 26 2007, 10:53 AM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
Heavy bumpers are safe bumpers and those I had on the Benzee were more like battering rams. I'm keeping the Beater all steel for that reason and will remove the front battery setup so I could put a spare tire in the front again. The alure of the FG car is cool but an all steel car is addicitng also and an interesting compromise in its own right. Car looks great so far and keep up the good work.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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Brando |
Aug 26 2007, 11:12 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Bumpers and shocks, front and rear, altogether weighs in around 225# I think.
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So.Cal.914 |
Aug 26 2007, 12:56 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Holly Moly! I was stripping my latest uggly duckling project and finally got to unbolting the bumpers. OK...never took off bumpers on a late 914...cool just unplug harness and two bolts...wow how easy. Put my air racket to work and then it happended...it felt like an engine fell on me!!! Holy Crap! Those bumpers are heavy...I need a bigger motor! I've always heard people mention that they were heavier but had no idea what a differnce than the earlier bumpers. I'm going to have to ad NOS to this 1.8. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Or you could just chuck those boat anchors and backdate to early steel or glass. |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 26 2007, 01:26 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Or you could just chuck those boat anchors and backdate to early steel or glass. What she said... |
LarryR |
Aug 26 2007, 01:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 929 Joined: 15-March 07 From: E. Bay Area, N. California Member No.: 7,604 |
Wow thanks for the warning. I am pulling off my '75 bumpers today and had no idea that they would weigh that much.
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Brando |
Aug 26 2007, 01:50 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
When I replaced my rear bumper (had ripped up bumper tits) I found out that Joe Sharp wasn't kidding when they weighed in as anchors. Luckily I found a home for my old one... Target's dumpster seemed cozy for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I second the back-dating to early bumpers or fiberglass. |
VaccaRabite |
Aug 26 2007, 10:34 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,584 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I like the look of the late bumpers on the 914, and my car has them. Once I am done with the real guts of my restoration, I am planning on making a foam insert to replace the steel, similar to how modern bumpers are made. Steel bar in the center for strength, and foam filling out the rest of it. I figure I will make a glassfibre mold from the existing steel insert, and then inject the foam into that.
Others have suggested starting with a foam "log" and carving the shape out of it. While this would be easier then injection molding, I would not be able to add the steel insert this way. If I can get this to work, it will have the look of the big black bumpers that I like, be lighter then the early bumpers, and still survive a 5mph bump. Zach |
alpha434 |
Aug 26 2007, 10:37 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
WHAT?!?!? How can they be that heavy? They'd need to be filled with LEAD to be that heavy. Crikeys!
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Eric_Shea |
Aug 26 2007, 10:39 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Once I am done with the real guts of my restoration, I am planning on making a foam insert to replace the steel, similar to how modern bumpers are made. Bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)And those of us who are "already" fathers know what a pipe dream that is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Once baby makes three your foam inserting, steel baring, fiberglass molding days are GONE Mister!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
alpha434 |
Aug 26 2007, 10:43 PM
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My member number is no coincidence. Group: Members Posts: 3,154 Joined: 16-December 05 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 5,280 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Just expanding foam would work. The heavier, the better, probly.
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purple |
Aug 27 2007, 09:53 AM
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Pigeon feeders attract me Group: Members Posts: 938 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 7,942 Region Association: None |
Hmmm, isnt taking off 100 lbs of unsightly fat on a car worth a tenth on the 1/4 mile?
methinks taking 226 lbs of unsightly fat on the 914 would make it a little faster, yeah? now....somebody please inform el presidente where he can get some glass bumpers Pretty please with sugar on top (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
ConeDodger |
Aug 27 2007, 11:05 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,799 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Hmmm, isnt taking off 100 lbs of unsightly fat on a car worth a tenth on the 1/4 mile? methinks taking 226 lbs of unsightly fat on the 914 would make it a little faster, yeah? now....somebody please inform el presidente where he can get some glass bumpers Pretty please with sugar on top (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) They were heavy... But they certainly were not 225# More like 50# an end or less. Someone must have an accurate weight... |
Brian Mifsud |
Aug 27 2007, 11:30 AM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
Keep them unaltered if you are gonna commute in traffic. They work!
The next significant chunk of mass in the front end to protect you is the spare tire.. then there is that "rough and tumble" fuel tank....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
purple |
Aug 27 2007, 11:37 AM
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Pigeon feeders attract me Group: Members Posts: 938 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 7,942 Region Association: None |
Say I give the middle finger to safety and put some glass ones on because they look nice...would these fit a 76 that has no fender flares?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...em=130147463988 thanks |
Chuck |
Aug 27 2007, 05:31 PM
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What it eventually will look like . . . . Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Maple Grove, MN Member No.: 7,632 Region Association: Northstar Region |
If you decide to backdate, I've got the front and rear bumpers off of my '73 for sale. You can see pictures in the classifieds.
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Eric_Shea |
Aug 27 2007, 05:44 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Yup, but you may want to glass in the oil cooler opening unless you plan to go that route.
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Rand |
Aug 27 2007, 06:04 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Thank God for good deals on fiberglass bumpers. (Hi Root! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) )
I got a pair for $150. The most challenging part of the conversion was getting rid of the old boat anchors. :PUKE: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) :hurl: :choke: :gag: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pirate.gif) (Hint: "boxster" likes them. Haha. Just kidding Craig.) Glad those heavy-ass tankers are long gone! And Q. Where is the worst place to have extra weight?? A. AT THE ENDS!!!! OY! |
AZ914 |
Aug 28 2007, 08:52 AM
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914 Dumbass Group: Members Posts: 1,461 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson Member No.: 98 Region Association: Southwest Region |
My anchors are coming off permenantly in a couple of weeks... I'll give each a big bear hug and get on a scale.. see what they really weigh.
I actually like the look of the bigblackbumpers from the profile.. thats about it though. |
purple |
Aug 28 2007, 09:39 AM
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Pigeon feeders attract me Group: Members Posts: 938 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 7,942 Region Association: None |
Eric, why would I glass in the oil cooler opening? is there any disadvantage to just leaving a hole there? I have a valence from a bmw on my car, dont ask me why, it just came that way. it has a hole there too..
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