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| drive-ability |
 Oct 1 2007, 06:08 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782  |
I think they look a little goofy so I'll leave it to you guys. One good point is theres plenty of filter capacity compared to the old dinky filter.
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Oct 1 2007, 07:21 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Does kinda look lost in spaceish, but I guess it is more about function. I don't know how else you could get all that airflow any other way.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 1 2007, 07:32 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Nice, toasty air for the intake! Clean installation, though .............................
The Cap'n |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 1 2007, 07:34 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Oct 1 2007, 05:32 PM)  Nice, toasty air for the intake! Clean installation, though ............................. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) looks like you're going for the hot air induction route ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy |
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| drive-ability |
Oct 1 2007, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 1 2007, 06:34 PM) QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Oct 1 2007, 05:32 PM) Nice, toasty air for the intake! Clean installation, though ............................. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) looks like you're going for the hot air induction route ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy Theirs alway some smart A'S*, wouldn't feel right if they didn't chime in. If you spent some time under the hood area you would know its a cool place, not hot as you might guess. That area of the trunk is much cooler than above the engine area. At any rate its cooler in relative terms and filter capacity was my main goal. Think harder! |
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| Eric_Shea |
Oct 1 2007, 08:02 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE compared to the old dinky filter Hard to believe the inlet on those two hoses combined is greater than the old filter. I see your filter area is much larger but, from the armchair quarterback position, it looks like it would be starved for air. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 1 2007, 08:08 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(drive-ability @ Oct 1 2007, 05:56 PM) Theirs alway some smart A'S*, wouldn't feel right if they didn't chime in. If you spent some time under the hood area you would know its a cool place, not hot as you might guess. That area of the trunk is much cooler than above the engine area. At any rate its cooler in relative terms and filter capacity was my main goal. Think harder! nice! how about you un-bunch yer panties a bit? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you are obviously much luckier than i, because even with the coated headers, my trunk get's PLENTY hot. much hotter than right under the GT engine lid. hot enough even to leave heat discoloration on the spare tire rubber i carry in that rear trunk. so much for smart ass, right back at 'ya! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Andy PS: and i DID agree with the smart ass krusty cap'n about the cleanliness of the install. just for the record. are you, by any chance, an engineer by day? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| drive-ability |
Oct 1 2007, 08:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 1 2007, 07:08 PM) QUOTE(drive-ability @ Oct 1 2007, 05:56 PM) Theirs alway some smart A'S*, wouldn't feel right if they didn't chime in. If you spent some time under the hood area you would know its a cool place, not hot as you might guess. That area of the trunk is much cooler than above the engine area. At any rate its cooler in relative terms and filter capacity was my main goal. Think harder! nice! how about you un-bunch yer panties a bit? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you are obviously much luckier than i, because even with the coated headers, my trunk get's PLENTY hot. much hotter than right under the GT engine lid. hot enough even to leave heat discoloration on the spare tire rubber i carry in that rear trunk. so much for smart ass, right back at 'ya! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Andy PS: and i DID agree with the smart ass krusty cap'n about the cleanliness of the install. just for the record. are you, by any chance, an engineer by day? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy, My trunk is gone, the area really stays much cooler then above the engine. I don't have anyway to really know just how the air flows in that area but its nothing like the engine lid area. I may be pulling air in from around the transmission, which is open with no sheet metal . I guess at first look you might think its a bit hot but its not. My engine makes as much heat as most V8s but theres so much open space with the trunk removed maybe that is the biggest factor. I do have huge Ferrari 575 mufflers and they sit down low and take up a lot of frontal area, that may be deflecting relatively cool air up there. No offense taken... Krusty is just Krusty |
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| Brando |
Oct 1 2007, 09:00 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Turn it around 180ยบ and shorten those flex hoses, you'll be set (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Looks damn nice! |
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| Aaron Cox |
Oct 1 2007, 09:24 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
lets do some math!
what was the diameter of the old filter, and how tall was it? 2" x 12"? formula for surface area of said cylinder filter. 2 x pi x r x h 2x3.14x6x2 = 75.4 square inches of filter zone..... what size hose? 2" ID? 2 hoses x area of circular hose cross section. 2*pi*r^2 2 x 3.14x1^2 6.3 square inches...... you are trying to make your motor breathe through a straw.... |
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| drive-ability |
Oct 1 2007, 11:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
Aaron,
Your right sorta, the tubes are 2 1/8" and need to be 3". I have driven the car but not over 4,500 rpm. I'll now take it like a man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Oct 1 2007, 11:28 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE 2*pi*r^2 2 x 3.14x1^2 Ahhhh see, I just needed my engineer bitch to cypher it out for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE I'll now take it like a man Ut ohhhh... that oughta bring Slits outta the woodwork! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) |
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| p914 |
Oct 1 2007, 11:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 7-September 03 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 1,117 Region Association: None |
How effective are the fans you have on the engine grill lid?
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| Aaron Cox |
Oct 1 2007, 11:55 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(drive-ability @ Oct 1 2007, 10:08 PM) Aaron, Your right sorta, the tubes are 2 1/8" and need to be 3". I have driven the car but not over 4,500 rpm. I'll now take it like a man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) ok... so 2 1/8 ID is 2.125 in 2 x pi x 1.0625^2 7.089 in square with the two tubes..... QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Oct 1 2007, 10:28 PM) QUOTE 2*pi*r^2 2 x 3.14x1^2 Ahhhh see, I just needed my engineer bitch to cypher it out for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE I'll now take it like a man Ut ohhhh... that oughta bring Slits outta the woodwork! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) thats mr egr bitch. |
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| 914-8 |
Oct 2 2007, 12:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 802 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Cal Member No.: 5,461 Region Association: None |
It does look a little odd/disproportionate having those MONGO air filters going into those tiny tubes.
I was thinking of doing something similar on my V8, except using a Ram-Air filter box on the carb, with the tubes drawing air from the wheel well areas. I thought about doing that mainly so I could seal up the engine lid (put a piece of fitted black aluminum under the grille areas). Keep the engine tidier and free from water, etc. |
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| Foster |
Oct 2 2007, 12:12 AM
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Thread Killer Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 26-May 05 From: Great Lakes Member No.: 4,151 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Oct 1 2007, 10:24 PM) lets do some math! what was the diameter of the old filter, and how tall was it? 2" x 12"? formula for surface area of said cylinder filter. 2 x pi x r x h 2x3.14x6x2 = 75.4 square inches of filter zone..... what size hose? 2" ID? 2 hoses x area of circular hose cross section. 2*pi*r^2 2 x 3.14x1^2 6.3 square inches...... you are trying to make your motor breathe through a straw.... Not a (real) engineer here, but shouldn't you be comparing the size of the tubes to the size of the throttle opening? Having asked that, even assuming the throttle opening is only 4" dia (12.5 sq"), the tubes are still like straws. But at least they're jumbo straws and not those little curly straws like in a shape of a bunny or something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| neo914-6 |
Oct 2 2007, 12:23 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
TR's intake in the rear...
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| drive-ability |
Oct 2 2007, 12:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
QUOTE(p914 @ Oct 1 2007, 10:48 PM) How effective are the fans you have on the engine grill lid? The fans are there to help keep the intake cool in traffic, hard to say really how well they work. My cooling system is fantastic but coolant temp is only one factor. In 100 + degree weather blowing cooler air on the intake seems like a good idea, besides when the lid is up and the engine is running it keeps me cool when I'm tinkering. I took them off a 90 or so Toyota Supra. |
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| drive-ability |
Oct 2 2007, 12:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
QUOTE(Foster @ Oct 1 2007, 11:12 PM) QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Oct 1 2007, 10:24 PM) lets do some math! what was the diameter of the old filter, and how tall was it? 2" x 12"? formula for surface area of said cylinder filter. 2 x pi x r x h 2x3.14x6x2 = 75.4 square inches of filter zone..... what size hose? 2" ID? 2 hoses x area of circular hose cross section. 2*pi*r^2 2 x 3.14x1^2 6.3 square inches...... you are trying to make your motor breathe through a straw.... Not a (real) engineer here, but shouldn't you be comparing the size of the tubes to the size of the throttle opening? Having asked that, even assuming the throttle opening is only 4" dia (12.5 sq"), the tubes are still like straws. But at least they're jumbo straws and not those little curly straws like in a shape of a bunny or something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Each of the 4 butterfly's are 1 .5" x 4= 6" The mass of the butterfly's take up some of that but, I know the engine runs fine to 4500 rpm but beyond that I can't say. I haven't pushed the car much lately. . |
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| Phoenix-MN |
Oct 2 2007, 05:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
heres an intake plenum that should work, ebay 150063211879
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