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| WyKev |
 Oct 21 2007, 11:35 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 21-June 06 From: SE Wyoming Member No.: 6,278  |
Hi guys,
Been lurking for several weeks and checking out the rides you have. Awesome Stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I've got a 76 with a 2.0 that has to leave. Why? Well, I've been into VWs mainly dune buggies for years and have had a few T4s. I want some REAL power! Hence the question- I'm NOT a chevy guy. Checking with my gearhead buddies brings a 340 mopar and a 5.0 fuelie ford up for sale/trade. Outside of the fact that the chevy has been used for years, what major problems do you see from your greater experience? I saw someone was from Wyoming. I'm N of Cheyenne about an hour. No teeners 'round here! Thanks, Kev |
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| GWN7 |
Oct 21 2007, 11:39 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
The main reason the sbc is used is because it's smaller than the dodge & ford blocks. The sbc just fits length wise. The other two are longer and require more modification.
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| Dr. Roger |
Oct 22 2007, 12:16 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
if you like those hard launches you'll need to start shopping for a pantera, G50, or porsche 930 transaxle to handle the torque.
there are others which you can find all about by using our boards search function. i got hooked and now i can't let go. =) |
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| byndbad914 |
Oct 22 2007, 02:22 AM
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shoehorn and some butter - it fits Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Broomfield, CO Member No.: 5,463 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(WyKev @ Oct 21 2007, 09:35 PM)  Hi guys, Been lurking for several weeks and checking out the rides you have. Awesome Stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I've got a 76 with a 2.0 that has to leave. Why? Well, I've been into VWs mainly dune buggies for years and have had a few T4s. I want some REAL power! Hence the question- I'm NOT a chevy guy. Checking with my gearhead buddies brings a 340 mopar and a 5.0 fuelie ford up for sale/trade. Outside of the fact that the chevy has been used for years, what major problems do you see from your greater experience? I saw someone was from Wyoming. I'm N of Cheyenne about an hour. No teeners 'round here! Thanks, Kev I agree with Bruce - the Ford is longer. That said, if you run a Danny Bee belt drive setup, you could make it work I think. The "timing chain cover" has some water ports extended for the stock pump - you could just NPT tap those and run 90deg angles off of it with a remote pump. Distributor may become an issue with the firewall - I have never tried to fit one. I am a die-hard SBF guy and the 289 is THE best engine ever built. So, I just built a 289 Ford in Chevy clothing with my de-stroked 400 (353 cubes). Sure you don't want a Chevy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Viav1NKhQ |
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| Gint |
Oct 22 2007, 07:03 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,096 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE(WyKev @ Oct 21 2007, 10:35 PM) I saw someone was from Wyoming. I'm N of Cheyenne about an hour. No teeners 'round here! Yes there is! |
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| army dude |
Oct 22 2007, 07:38 AM
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The answer is 42 Group: Members Posts: 218 Joined: 12-December 05 From: Sarasota, Fl Member No.: 5,265 |
Welcome to the obsession!! You need to post pics!! Document your work and above all have fun!! I am sure once it is done in your car you will have a blast!
Ian |
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| jimkelly |
Oct 22 2007, 09:33 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
just do sbc
get you stuff from renegadehybrids.com - conversion kit either pre 1989 or post 1989 and cooling kit. you will be up and running in no time. jim |
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| WyKev |
Oct 22 2007, 10:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 21-June 06 From: SE Wyoming Member No.: 6,278 |
Thanks for the replys guys. Looks like I'll be going Chevy since I want to drive it rather than re-engineer the install.
I took pics , then the batts died in the camera and I bought the wrong size. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) So Mr Ginter, do you know of teener folks around Torrington or Scottsbluff Ne? I haven't even seen one. Jim, Renegade is quick but I'm cheap!!! Roger, I used to live in Salida, and went to Pueblo alot. Trying to talk a buddy into racing his spare ur-quattro. I love your car! The order is bus trans in the Towd, new fender on the turbo quattro(cow!) and then I can roll the lil red car in and drop the engine/trans and start the rust repair while I gather parts. Next question- Do folks put on 911 ft ends for strength or for an easier 5 bolt swap? Little confused (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Thanks guys. Kev |
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 23 2007, 04:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Hey Kev,
I am in Laramie and worked at Renegade for a few years. If you ever make it down my way let me know, I would be happy to talk about teeners and your power options with ya. Dana. |
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| WyKev |
Oct 23 2007, 10:08 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 21-June 06 From: SE Wyoming Member No.: 6,278 |
Dana,
You caused me all sorts of problems already .(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) You must be back at Tech? I'm a Techer too, but from the distant past. I get down that way every once in a while to see an old buddy or play in Walden. I've got a 2.5 sub in the shed, but the deciding factor was the exhaust note! I know it won't be as fast as yours and others, but I'm a old v8 guy and gotta have that sound. But who knows, after a rocket ride, I could be convinced! I'll be in touch, Thanks Kev |
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| davep |
Oct 23 2007, 10:56 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,289 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(WyKev @ Oct 21 2007, 09:35 PM) I saw someone was from Wyoming. I'm N of Cheyenne about an hour. No teeners 'round here! johnlush plymouth37 Kirmizi RJMII are the few other members that claim to be from Wyoming. |
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| Kirmizi |
Oct 23 2007, 11:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
Hey Kev, there's a couple of us in Cheyenne. I'd suggest signing up on the Colorado board also, as a "local" source of parts/advice etc... Mike
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| Kirmizi |
Oct 23 2007, 11:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
Hey Kev, there's a couple of us in Cheyenne. I'd suggest signing up on the Colorado board also, as a "local" source of parts/advice etc... Mike
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| Dr. Roger |
Oct 23 2007, 01:14 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE Next question- Do folks put on 911 ft ends for strength or for an easier 5 bolt swap? Little confused confused24.gif the 911 front suspensions usually get installed for several reasons. 5 bolts providing more wheel options. bigger calipers/vented rotors and many more brake options. pricing of parts is about the same. maybe 914 stuff is a bit cheaper. bigger bearings. newer technology starting with the SC. before that it was just bigger brakes I think. 911 front ends also have an aluminum crossbar. I did mine for all of the above stated reasons. quote from the bird board found HERE http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914qa/914Q_misc1.htm#2 What year 911 front suspension is the one to get? How will the best affect the rear suspension (brakes)? From what I've heard, the 911SC front suspension is the best one to get. These are 78-83. Any 911 front end will work from the years 69-89.The Carrera front ends (84-89) are also real good although the brake rotors have a distinct tendency to wear out faster. These front ends can be expensive, in the $900 range. Since the front brakes do most of the braking, the effect on the rears really won’t be too noticeable. I’ve had people who have upgraded their rears complain to me that they cannot feel the difference. |
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| TravisNeff |
Oct 23 2007, 02:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Here is a new rod simpson conversion kit - for a 911 for $500
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/455598337.html The radiator is probably a different size than what you need and you would need to fab an engine mount, but the rest of the stuff is probably just right. You would also need to find out if the kit is for a 915 or 901 tranmission. |
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 23 2007, 02:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(WyKev @ Oct 23 2007, 08:08 AM) Dana, You caused me all sorts of problems already .(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) You must be back at Tech? I'm a Techer too, but from the distant past. I get down that way every once in a while to see an old buddy or play in Walden. Kev I went to tech a couple years ago, I am now at the university of wyoming going for my mechanical engineering degree. We should plan a wyoming teener get together this spring. Let me know when you are in my area next. |
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| WyKev |
Oct 23 2007, 11:10 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 21-June 06 From: SE Wyoming Member No.: 6,278 |
Hey, there are several of us up here where the wind Don't blow! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
Dana, I figured you were teachin' at Tech . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) I'll definately be in touch. I tried signing up on the Colorado site. Then my computer decided that yahoo email was evil and won't let me in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I'll have to figure out a way around that. Again thanks for the answers. I'm now looking at a 350 with multi port injection out of a early 90's Z . The guy has a bus and wants my 2.0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) We'll see. Kev |
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