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Fuel Injector cleaner, The fuel additive's, do they work? |
Andyrew |
Jan 10 2004, 08:50 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a sneeky suspicion that my injectors arnt as clean as I would like them to be. I have run my car maybe 250 miles since I started driving it a couple months ago, and It has been running better, and with more power. Im thinking that my injectors where clogged, and that driving it cleaned them. Would I benefit from adding some FI cleaner to my fuel to see if it makes any difference? Any suggestions on which one?
Thanks Andrew |
ChrisReale |
Jan 10 2004, 08:53 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
I run techron every now and then. Pour it all in, and then fill up the tank fully.
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ArtechnikA |
Jan 10 2004, 09:16 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
check out BG 44K. well-respected among shop owners and gets good reviews in the Audi world. i've used it in the Subaru and my MFI 911. not cheap but good stuff. i used to use Regane once a quarter and the Costco 4-pack version of Techron once a month. the word has been that the Chevron station flavor of Techron is significantly more concentrated and effective than the similarly sized FLAPS version. donno if that's true but it has a ring to it ...
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LS6/914 |
Jan 10 2004, 09:37 PM
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Never leaves the shop member Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Port Townsend,WA Rivabelosa/Madrid ESP Member No.: 1,215 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
During my days with Chevrolet the 5.7L vortec motor in the trucks & the 4.3L in the astro with central sequential injection had a extreme concern with injector deposits. Uncle "GM" advised us lowly techs to use GM Port Fuel Injector 12345104. Turns out it worked pretty good. Add one bottle to a quarter tank and run it to almost empty. Funny thing when we went to find out what the product actually was it turned out to be relabeled Chevron Techron!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Anyway I use it in my SAAB & Aerostar.
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Andyrew |
Jan 10 2004, 09:39 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I'll have to check out BG 44K and Techron. I use Chevron for gas, I'll see what kragen has for this stuff
Thanks Andrew |
mightyohm |
Jan 10 2004, 09:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think you're supposed to change your oil after using Techron. Or so the 911 dudes always told me. But you know those guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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airsix |
Jan 10 2004, 09:44 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
Lots of flavors fo Techron. Get the big expensive one. Dump it in right before you fill up & don't fill up again until you've run that tank almost out. Expect the car to run like crap while you've got the concentrated Techron in it. Expect it to run great after that though. It works. YMMV
-Ben M. |
Andyrew |
Jan 10 2004, 10:02 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Couldnt I just run put in the techron on like a half empty tank.. and then do some twisties to mix it?
My main question was answered, FI cleaner is good. Thanks, suggestions on what to use is always helpfull. Thanks guys! Andrew |
redshift |
Jan 10 2004, 11:43 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
It works because it's heavy.
M |
campbellcj |
Jan 10 2004, 11:47 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,582 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Jan 10 2004, 07:41 PM) I think you're supposed to change your oil after using Techron. Or so the 911 dudes always told me. But you know those guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I think your memory might be off...you're supposed to wax your car and polish your Fuchs after the Techron (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chatsmiley.gif) |
LS6/914 |
Jan 10 2004, 11:50 PM
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Never leaves the shop member Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Port Townsend,WA Rivabelosa/Madrid ESP Member No.: 1,215 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It works because it has MTBE, methyltertiarybutylether in it. Also used to remove carbon build up in artillery.
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Elliot_Cannon |
Jan 11 2004, 12:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Jan 10 2004, 07:41 PM) I think you're supposed to change your oil after using Techron. Or so the 911 dudes always told me. But you know those guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Hi, It is suggested that you use techron everytime you change your oil. You don't have to but it is the recommended frequency. Cheers, Elliot |
redshift |
Jan 11 2004, 12:23 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
The MTBE makes the deposits pourus, and the big molecules stick to it, and drag it off, right?
Seems like sand still works better, seanery told me. M |
LS6/914 |
Jan 11 2004, 12:30 AM
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Never leaves the shop member Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Port Townsend,WA Rivabelosa/Madrid ESP Member No.: 1,215 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
For the really large carbon build up in the Audi/Porches we use to use a walnut shell scrub. Labor intensive but worked.
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cnavarro |
Jan 11 2004, 07:26 AM
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Cylinder Guru Group: Members Posts: 472 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Chicagoland! Member No.: 49 Region Association: None |
I swear by Redline's fuel injection cleaner. Harder to find than the chevron stuff. If I can't get it, then the expensive techron is my second choice. Do your homework on it- the redline stuff is used by almost all the major and minor oems. Looks like runny atf, but other than that, I haven't seen better stuff. Have used it every 3,000 mi in my 2002 turbo beetle and 1995 Ford Bronco to this day. Usually see a 2-3mpg increase after using the stuff.
Charles Navarro LN Engineering http://www.LNengineering.com Aircooled Precision Performance |
Rogue |
Jan 11 2004, 11:18 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Propwash (16XS) D/FW, TX Member No.: 1,447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I had just put a JDM engine in my Miata LE, and it just didn't run nearly as good as the original engine.
On my way to a Track Day I put in the Techron and filled up. It smoked a bit, but now runs like a scalded ape. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I had tried Seafoam with no improvement. I ran a bottle thru all my cars, and recommend it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
swood |
Jan 11 2004, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Strong Beach Member No.: 251 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(redshift @ Jan 10 2004, 10:23 PM) The MTBE makes the deposits pourus, and the big molecules stick to it, and drag it off, right? M Kind of like Olean, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pain30.gif) |
Andyrew |
Jan 11 2004, 02:13 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
So sand is the way to go right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I'll see what the rice shops have (pepboys, kragen.. lol) for Techron and Redline. I think I'll convince dad to get some for all the cars.. Thanks Andrew |
mightyohm |
Jan 12 2004, 12:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Jan 10 2004, 10:20 PM) QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Jan 10 2004, 07:41 PM) I think you're supposed to change your oil after using Techron. Or so the 911 dudes always told me. But you know those guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Hi, It is suggested that you use techron everytime you change your oil. You don't have to but it is the recommended frequency. Cheers, Elliot I think the reasoning was that it doesn't burn and instead washes down and dilutes the oil. But I have NO clue if any of that is true. |
ArtechnikA |
Jan 12 2004, 08:03 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Jan 11 2004, 10:03 PM) I think the reasoning was that it doesn't burn and instead washes down and dilutes the oil. But I have NO clue if any of that is true. most of the cleaners have a high proportion of naptha, which is basically just really high-grade gasoline, and it burns just fine. if it's MTBE also no worries - something like 20% of California winter gas is still MTBE. they're phasing it out, but not because it doesn't burn ... |
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