 Engine Swaps, Which would you Pick? |
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| 749142 |
 Feb 21 2008, 03:53 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 8-January 08 From: Bakersfield, Ca Member No.: 8,545  |
So guys what would you choose to swap into your 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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| purple |
Feb 21 2008, 04:03 PM
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Pigeon feeders attract me Group: Members Posts: 938 Joined: 24-July 07 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 7,942 Region Association: None |
Raby 2056 putting dual carbs on it.
nothing like the best! |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 21 2008, 04:05 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(749142 @ Feb 21 2008, 01:53 PM)  3.6L 993 motor from a pre vario ram car, like a '95 993 ... see link in my signature ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
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| McMark |
Feb 21 2008, 04:15 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
2270 T4. Nothing else works for me.
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| rick 918-S |
Feb 21 2008, 04:54 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,473 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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The way the type IV is being developed I don't see any reason to do anything but refresh the air cooled engine. The Kit market seems to be making the type IV a very affordable concept. When the Type IV is starting to bump 200 hp and a 180 hp is available as a kit, It almost doesn't make sense to do an average Porsche 6 anymore. Except if your doing an Andy.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
All the water cooled cars cost way more to build than a guy would think. The high CG is very hard to over come. And most of us never really learn to drive the car in the first place. Did I just post that?... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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| cobra94563 |
Feb 21 2008, 05:03 PM
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Chris Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 1-March 05 From: San Francisco Member No.: 3,696 |
QUOTE(749142 @ Feb 21 2008, 01:53 PM) without a budget limit... 993 (bigger is better!) andy...why pre vario ram vs one with ? |
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| Zaney |
Feb 21 2008, 05:10 PM
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Deuchland en der Haus Group: Members Posts: 461 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Engine 11 Redmond, WA Member No.: 1,738 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sooooooby!
Subaru 2.5 STi w/ V23 turbo mated with a 5 speed WRX 2WD converted Tranny! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| Chuck |
Feb 21 2008, 05:15 PM
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What it eventually will look like . . . . Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Maple Grove, MN Member No.: 7,632 Region Association: Northstar Region |
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Feb 21 2008, 02:54 PM) The way the type IV is being developed I don't see any reason to do anything but refresh the air cooled engine. The Kit market seems to be making the type IV a very affordable concept. When the Type IV is starting to bump 200 hp and a 180 hp is available as a kit, It almost doesn't make sense to do an average Porsche 6 anymore. Except if your doing an Andy.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) All the water cooled cars cost way more to build than a guy would think. The high CG is very hard to over come. And most of us never really learn to drive the car in the first place. Did I just post the?... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The tipping point between a Raby Type IV and a six (in stock trim) looks to be ~200 hp. At or below 200 hp the Type IV cannot be beat IMHO. If you're looking above 200 hp than a 3.2 or 3.6 (in stock trim) is the way to go IMHO. I'm putting a 3.2 in mine. With a simple chip swap and 914 appropriate headers, should be good for 240-250. YMMV |
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| Brando |
Feb 21 2008, 05:26 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Rational Swap...
hybrid fuel/electric. Small displacement and efficient gas engine on a big generator in the front trunk with Lithium-Ion battery pack, 300hp/tq electric motor in the back (with regenerative capability) on a 6-speed gearbox. Dream swap... 993tt engine and G50 box. Most Likely swap... Subi EJ25 twin turbo on a 901 or 915. |
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| McMark |
Feb 21 2008, 05:37 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE andy...why pre vario ram vs one with ? VarioRAM is too tall for the stock engine bay. So you have to get creative to make it fit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Check out this orange car with VarioRAM. |
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| Brando |
Feb 21 2008, 05:43 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
You can make varioram fit...
The intake system can be turned around. The last 993 engine i helped put together was varioram. Also when mounting your 911 engine mount, you can go lower an inch or so. Depends how you wanna do it! |
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| rusty914 |
Feb 21 2008, 05:57 PM
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Wow this thing handles better than my bug Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 6-June 07 From: Longview, WA Member No.: 7,793 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
13bTT with dual Boxster radiators (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| John |
Feb 21 2008, 06:09 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I like the later model 911 air cooled 6-cyl conversions. 3.2, 3.3, 3.6.
I like the 3.3 turbo conversions (like Chappy did). I'm not entirely sure what my next one will be. I don't think I have the engine yet. I don't think I would do a V-8 conversion. I know that I won't be doing any more TIV cars. I am and have been in love with the 6 cyl cars for too long. I love the way they look and the way they sound. It's just called realizing one's dreams. (and that's been my dream since I saw Miles Collier's 914-6 GT way back in the early 1980s at Mid Ohio). |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 21 2008, 06:18 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Brando @ Feb 21 2008, 03:43 PM) The intake system can be turned around. still too tall ... you can flip the intake on a pre varioram to have more room for the airfilter, but hight becomes an issue with the later varioram upper intake ... IMHO, not worth the few measly HP over the '95 engine ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
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| degreeoff |
Feb 21 2008, 06:18 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
How does scotty B say it.......'put a six in that thing, its the right thing to do'
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| degreeoff |
Feb 21 2008, 06:22 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(John @ Feb 21 2008, 04:09 PM) I am and have been in love with the 6 cyl cars for too long. I love the way they look and the way they sound. and how sweet it is!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7w0HeD0EAw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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| BIGKAT_83 |
Feb 21 2008, 06:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States
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I've got three V8 914's now. 1 LS1 and 2 SBC cars. I plan to convert one of the V8 cars to a Subaru 3.3L (230HP) 6cyl engine. Just got back from looking at a 75k mile great running engine that they were asking $500 for. That works out to about $2 a horsepower.
Heres a picture of a install in a 911SC  |
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| orange914 |
Feb 21 2008, 10:42 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
i'm in the middle of a 2056 and have gone way over budget of what i planned by quite abit. to do a type iv right it really is realitively expensive. dont get me wrong, if thats what you want go for it. i'm o.k. with going this route (verses swap) on our 73 mainly becouse the car is fairly origanal, rust free and my condition holds back major mods. but if your o.k. with changing out and all that comes with that, you can get alot more h.p., reliability and other benifits for your buck.
depends what you want, what you want to spend and how many bloody knuckles ya want (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) mike |
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 21 2008, 11:36 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
2.5 Six
But... if you're not talking P-Power then I would consider a Suby. Pretty happy with the P-Power though. |
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| Porcharu |
Feb 21 2008, 11:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
2.5 Subaru and Subaru transmission setup with a close ratio gearset plus LSD. If I ever get paid for a big job I did last year the engine will get forged pistons and good rods plus a Lysholm type supercharger. Should be very interesting.
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