 914 Supercharger?, Intake manafold for a supercharger on a 914? |
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| Porschedub |
  May 15 2008, 02:07 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 15-May 08 From: San Antonio, Texas, USA Member No.: 9,057 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Has anyone ever built or know someone who has built a intake manafold
to install a (Ford,GM, or import) supercharger on a 914-4 or 6? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) porschedub@sbcglobal.net (IMG:http://www.geocities.com/satexasbad67@sbcglobal.net/Super.jpg) |
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| jimkelly |
May 15 2008, 02:40 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
this guy has a supercharged type4 on his bike.
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| Porschedub |
May 15 2008, 02:45 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 15-May 08 From: San Antonio, Texas, USA Member No.: 9,057 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That's cool, Jim!
Thats what I want but I need to find some one who has built the intake manafold for a T-4 setup? Need pic's, and how-to info? QUOTE(jimkelly @ May 15 2008, 03:40 PM)  this guy has a supercharged type4 on his bike. |
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| So.Cal.914 |
May 15 2008, 03:07 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Hi, I will probably be disagreed with but a supercharger is driven off the engine, does basicly the same thing as a turbo. But the supercharger gives you instant boost. The turbo is driven off the exhaust, it use's no power from the engine to drive it. There is a 'Lag' but unless you are building a dragster or something like that chopper, I would sudjest talking to the fella's here that have turbo'd their teeners. Just My .02
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| PBritain |
May 15 2008, 03:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 6,293 |
i know fat performance makes an intake manifold for turbo apps. would probably work for supercharger setup too. the only hard part at all about turboing the car is the exhaust, and thats just a patience game. ill let ya know when i figure mine out. lol
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| SirAndy |
May 15 2008, 04:07 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,676 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
well, Ferdinand himself did it, and so can you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
btw. Kompressor = Supercharger 1) the first mid-engine porsche was designed by ferdinand porsche in the early 30s for the "Auto Union". the new "Hochleistungs-Fahrzeugbau GmbH" company was exclusively founded to develop this grand prix race car. the internal project name was simply "P". the car was equipped with a V16, 4.36L engine. a Roots-Kompressor was added bringing the max. output to 295HP at 4500 rpm. raced by "Ernst von Delius" in 1936 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1174344997.jpg) 2) the second mid-engine porsche was built by ferry porsche in the late 40s, using the original "P" design as a template. the car was ordered by the italian Piero Dusio and was called the "Cisitalia". it featured a 12 Cylinder Boxermotor with just 1.5L displacement. fitted with a kompressor, the engine produced a staggering 450HP at 10500 rpm and featured 4 overhead camshafts and dual weber carburetors. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1174345911.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1174345969.jpg) |
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| Rand |
May 15 2008, 04:18 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.randakks.com/Randakk%20Supercharger%20Final%20Prototype%203.JPG)
I know, not a TIV. You might have to blaze some trails. Practically, I think you would be better off with a known 2270 build. But I'd sure be interested in seeing your experiments. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| PBritain |
May 15 2008, 06:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 6,293 |
that setup would be E-Z to adapt to a t4 me thinks. looks darn sweet too.
but i bet it costs more than my entire car. |
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| Dr Evil |
May 15 2008, 07:21 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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So what is this charger off of? What model, etc?
I am looking at them right now, just for fun, and think that you could probably get a honda one for not too much that can be adapted. |
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| jr91472 |
May 15 2008, 07:26 PM
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"I'm pacing myself sergeant..." Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 2-August 04 From: McKinney, TX Member No.: 2,437 |
whoa, that chopper has a chrome oil filter....
bet you don't get those at Pep Boys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
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| Dr Evil |
May 15 2008, 07:34 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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| r_towle |
May 15 2008, 08:08 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,588 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Look for a single carb manifold built for a four barrel holley carb. It should work.
The single carb intakes are often thrown in the trash...so put an ad in the classifieds looking for one. Rich |
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| Joe Bob |
May 15 2008, 09:03 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 15 2008, 02:07 PM) well, Ferdinand himself did it, and so can you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) btw. Kompressor = Supercharger 1) the first mid-engine porsche was designed by ferdinand porsche in the early 30s for the "Auto Union". the new "Hochleistungs-Fahrzeugbau GmbH" company was exclusively founded to develop this grand prix race car. the internal project name was simply "P". the car was equipped with a V16, 4.36L engine. a Roots-Kompressor was added bringing the max. output to 295HP at 4500 rpm. raced by "Ernst von Delius" in 1936 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1174344997.jpg) 2) the second mid-engine porsche was built by ferry porsche in the late 40s, using the original "P" design as a template. the car was ordered by the italian Piero Dusio and was called the "Cisitalia". it featured a 12 Cylinder Boxermotor with just 1.5L displacement. fitted with a kompressor, the engine produced a staggering 450HP at 10500 rpm and featured 4 overhead camshafts and dual weber carburetors. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1174345911.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1174345969.jpg) If I remember, the Cistalia never ran a race? BTW, you can't Supercharge a 914...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| Porschedub |
May 16 2008, 09:58 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 15-May 08 From: San Antonio, Texas, USA Member No.: 9,057 Region Association: Southwest Region |
From some of the responces I have received it looks like the 90's Thunderbird SC
supercharger will work best with a 4 or 6 cyl and also with a Weber or Dell side draft carb? (IMG:http://www.geocities.com/satexasbad67@sbcglobal.net/T-bird.jpg) |
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| Porschedub |
May 16 2008, 09:59 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 15-May 08 From: San Antonio, Texas, USA Member No.: 9,057 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hey, Rand!
Who built that intake? |
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| Joe Bob |
May 16 2008, 10:01 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Sure why not? Cooling, drive belts/pulleys, and clearance isues will be "interesting".....but you'd be surprised what fits in there....
Rick Ollah sectioned the firewall forward to get a 928 motor in there. All it takes is time and money.....good luck. |
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| Porschedub |
May 16 2008, 11:40 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 15-May 08 From: San Antonio, Texas, USA Member No.: 9,057 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The motor is going to be mounted mid engine in a 67 Beetle! Cooling will come from a set of elect. fans!
QUOTE(!Wet Spot! @ May 16 2008, 11:01 AM) Sure why not? Cooling, drive belts/pulleys, and clearance isues will be "interesting".....but you'd be surprised what fits in there.... Rick Ollah sectioned the firewall forward to get a 928 motor in there. All it takes is time and money.....good luck. |
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| Jake Raby |
May 16 2008, 01:16 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I have a half dozen TIV S/C builds under my belt.. One of them went into a 914 and used an M45 Eaton..
The others have all been TIVs going into Split Window VW Buses.... I have never been pleased with Super Charging a TIV... The units build lots of engine bay temp and intercooling is near impossible. |
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| Porschedub |
May 16 2008, 01:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 15-May 08 From: San Antonio, Texas, USA Member No.: 9,057 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hi Jake!
Do you have any photos of that 914 S/C build? I would like to see how you set it up? I'm going with a 914,2.0 with a 914 T-axle installed "mid-enging" style in a 67 Beetle! QUOTE(Jake Raby @ May 16 2008, 02:16 PM) I have a half dozen TIV S/C builds under my belt.. One of them went into a 914 and used an M45 Eaton.. The others have all been TIVs going into Split Window VW Buses.... I have never been pleased with Super Charging a TIV... The units build lots of engine bay temp and intercooling is near impossible. |
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| Jake Raby |
May 16 2008, 02:05 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
That sounds like my kind of build.. BUT I don't have any photos of that engine as it was built in the late 90s..
What are you using for cooling and etc on the engine??? I can certainly help you with this project! TI conversions are my favorite builds! |
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