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| Bruce Allert |
 Feb 1 2004, 11:24 PM
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Hellions asleep  Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
Ya! I get in this morning (a wee bit coolish out) and take it outta gear & start it. I get a slight movement. Starter is pulled down a bit like the battery is low. Still, the car outta gear but I push in the clutch for the 2nd try of starting it. It starts and I let out the clutch (still outta gear) & the engine drags down with a slight movement forward. What is happening here? This doesnt make sense to me. If it's outta gear there shouldn't be any way for forward propulsion.
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| EdwardBlume |
Feb 1 2004, 11:33 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California 
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Check your shifter connection at the firewall. You may still be in gear but your shift coupler is toast. Pull back the boot and take a look.
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| Bruce Allert |
Feb 1 2004, 11:45 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You mean you can still be in gear a little bit? I thought it was all or none. I don't understand the gear meshing stuff! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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| Jake Raby |
Feb 2 2004, 12:31 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
sometimes when gear oil is cold it has enough viscosity to actually move the gears slightly.... thats what causes this, I see it alot.
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| redshift |
Feb 2 2004, 12:34 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
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| EdwardBlume |
Feb 2 2004, 12:44 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Sorry I misread your post.... so your car lurches while its in neutral? If so its not in neutral then... right? Unless them ugly garden knomes are playing a trick on you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 2 2004, 02:16 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,278 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Growing up with bugs and teeners in Michigan this always happened.
Jake nailed it: Cold Gear Lube. E. |
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| Dave_Darling |
Feb 2 2004, 04:05 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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I've even seen the effect on a warm summer's day... The car was idling on a lift, both rear wheels in the air. One of them was turning slowly. If you grabbed it, it stopped easily, but the other one slowly started to turn. If you grabbed both, they would stop. When you let go, the one would eventually start to turn again. It was quite weird, but not abnormal.
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| airsix |
Feb 2 2004, 05:08 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
You can also see this effect on the hiway. You will often see 4x4's going down the road and the front driveshaft is spinning. They aren't in 4wheel drive - the shaft is free-wheeling. It's just the 'stiction' of the gear oil between a driven part and a non-driven part.
-Ben M. ps - stiction isn't really a word as far as I know, but it gives you the right idea. |
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| Bruce Allert |
Feb 2 2004, 07:19 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(airsix @ Feb 2 2004, 04:08 PM) ps - stiction isn't really a word as far as I know, but it gives you the right idea. Sticktion like suckage (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)..... well, you know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) I've had this happen even in the warmer months first start of the day. I was getting ready to crawl under & adjust sumpin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) thanks guys for releiving the stress (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) .......b |
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