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Dry Chemical Fire Exstinguisher, Corrosive? |
Andyrew |
Feb 11 2004, 07:41 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I was driving with a friend of mine, he was in front of me with his 66 bug, and the engine caught fire (fuel fire). He pulled over quickly and I got out my fire exstinguisher and put out the fire. Like normal the stuff went everywhere, I was wondering if the chemican was corrosive? Dad said so, so I told him to go wash the car, cleaning everything.
Thanks andrew |
ArtechnikA |
Feb 11 2004, 08:51 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Feb 11 2004, 05:41 PM) I was wondering if the chemican was corrosive? ... depends on exactly what the chemical was (you still have the cannister and can check, yes?) but mostly, yeah, that's stuff's corrosive, bigtime, especially to nonferrous alloys (aluminum, magnesium...) |
Andyrew |
Feb 11 2004, 09:42 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Lets see its contents are : Monoammonium phosphate, mica, ammonium sulfate, and I think thats it.
help any?? Andrew |
Rog914 |
Feb 11 2004, 10:40 PM
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914 Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Reisterstown,Md Member No.: 93 |
Now that used up your old fire extinguisher, buy a good Halon or more ozone friendly Halotron fire extinguisher for your 914. There a bit more expensive (halon about $130, halotron about $100) but worth the money. They leave no harmful residue (except for what the fire has damaged).
Ralph 74 2.0 |
Andyrew |
Feb 11 2004, 10:49 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Ive got a new Kiddie sitting next to me. Going to put it in the trunk before I drive the car tomorrow.
Andrew |
Rich Bontempi |
Feb 11 2004, 11:21 PM
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914 Road Racer Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: 5-February 03 From: Redwood City Ca. 94063 Member No.: 239 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a suggestion.Now that you have purchased a good fire extinguisher (halon or halotron). Don't put the fire extinguisher in the trunk. Mount it somewhere in the cabin of your 914 , so if you need it , you can get it quickly. I have seen 914's burn to the ground, when the driver was unable to get to the trunk fast enough or forgot that they had the extinguisher in the trunk at all.
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Andyrew |
Feb 11 2004, 11:30 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I plan on mounting the fire extinguisher in the car. I just havent had time to do it yet, (and I dont know where to put it). I want to finish my interior before I mount it somewhere.. And I didnt buy an expensive one.. I bought a Kiddie (no name I guess..) that meets the rules for racing. Next one I get will be a nice one.
Thanks though! Andrew |
GWN7 |
Feb 11 2004, 11:32 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
The monoammonium phosphate is the extinguishing agent. The mica is in there to prevent caking (packing) of the material and the ammonium sulfate is there to keep them moisture resistant. The last two are trace materials.
They are nontoxic. I would recommend that you vacume as much of the material up before you wash the area and when you do wash it use copious quantities of water to remove any remaining. |
Rich Bontempi |
Feb 11 2004, 11:35 PM
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914 Road Racer Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: 5-February 03 From: Redwood City Ca. 94063 Member No.: 239 Region Association: Northern California |
A good mounting spot in the 914 is right in front of either the driver or passenger seats, on the floor. You can check the travel of the seat that you need ,then screw the extinguisher mount right to the floor (either on top of the carpet or under the rear edge of the carpet. It won't be in your way, getting in or out of the car, but it will be easily accessible.
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iiibdsiil |
Feb 11 2004, 11:51 PM
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Needs Door Locks Group: Members Posts: 605 Joined: 19-November 03 From: Tampa / Boca Raton, FL Member No.: 1,362 |
That's pretty sad that we all drive around with fire extinguishers in our cars.
Mine is my center console. - Brett Smith |
campbellcj |
Feb 12 2004, 12:07 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,547 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
A 2.5lb halon bottle fits perfectly in the appearance group "tray" between the seats, if you remove the lid/cushion.
A 5lb bottle fits in that same spot if you remove the tray; you can cover the bare tunnel with aluminum or carpet or vinyl or whatever turns you on, and then screw the bracket solidly down into the tunnel sheet metal. Personally I have a 5lb Amerex Halon bottle in that spot now and am about to install a Spa AFF 3-nozzle system too. And a fuel cell. FIRE == BAD |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 12 2004, 04:58 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(iiibdsiil @ Feb 11 2004, 09:51 PM) That's pretty sad that we all drive around with fire extinguishers in our cars. No, what's said is the millions of people who drive around without fire extinguishers in their cars. Even the ones in new cars!! Then again, I have one in my 914 but not in my Honda... --DD |
Andyrew |
Feb 12 2004, 05:43 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
But the 914 doesnt run right??
Maybe its time to put it in the honda... Any update on your car Dave?? Andrew |
Scott Carlberg |
Feb 12 2004, 05:55 PM
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Porsche MOTORSPORTS Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 17-April 03 From: Modesto, Ca Member No.: 580 |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Feb 12 2004, 03:43 PM) But the 914 doesnt run right?? OUCH (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 12 2004, 06:06 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Naaah. It'd only be painful if it weren't true... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
No updates. --DD |
Andyrew |
Feb 12 2004, 06:22 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Scott, from the latest I have heard, it doesnt run.. thats why I said that.. Not dissin his car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) .
Andrew |
Scott Carlberg |
Feb 12 2004, 06:48 PM
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Porsche MOTORSPORTS Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 17-April 03 From: Modesto, Ca Member No.: 580 |
Yeah I knew that Andrew, I'm not dissin Dave or his 914 either.
just having some fun |
Rich Bontempi |
Feb 13 2004, 12:14 AM
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914 Road Racer Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: 5-February 03 From: Redwood City Ca. 94063 Member No.: 239 Region Association: Northern California |
The reason we put Halon fire extinguishers in our cars is because we know other cars will catch on fire, not ours. And we're such good people, we like to help others. Seriously, I got in the practice of having an halon extinguisher in all my good cars since starting to autocross in 1976 (it was reccommended) Since then I've used mine at sears point to put out a flaming Pantera, just past turn 8-A, during a session, and twice on the street on a 356 and a ferrari. You just don't use your Halon on any kind of car, they're expensive!
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Mueller |
Feb 13 2004, 12:20 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I've used mine on a San Jose Police car that ran into a house.....I didn't even get comp'd for a new one ;(
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