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> Bad A-Arm flange, Need help
VaccaRabite
post Mar 31 2009, 04:47 PM
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When I bought this car, it only had one of the two bolts holding in the forward drivers side a -arm attacment point (where it attaches to the body under the front trunk.)

I figured it was just due to the accident that had taken place at some point in the car's past, and during the repair the mount offset a little.

Well, I was probably right, but not how I figured. Once I got a good look at everything, this is what I saw:
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As you can see the flange on the A-Arm right behind the mounting point is buggered. Inverted. And it is pushing against the bushing and holding the mount out of location.

So. How do I fix it?
even with a BFH I was not able to knock the mount off the bushing.
I DO NOT want to drop the A-Arm. I just got everyhting put back together, and removing all of the front suspension is more then I can fathom right now.

Other alternative is that I could just continue driving on one bolt, as the PO must have been doing.

This car is just determined to stay home from Hershey. At least I got my brakes up and working.

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post Mar 31 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Mar 31 2009, 02:47 PM) *

This car is just determined to stay home from Hershey.

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All bad, i'm afraid. At this point, i wouldn't be surprised if the whole A-Arm is bend.

I wouldn't drive that thing more than 100 feet with only one bolt in it. But that's just me ...
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post Mar 31 2009, 04:52 PM
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:01 PM
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Pull that shit apart and make sure everything is as it should be. A little time now will save you a lot of time and frustration later.
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:01 PM
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zach good used a arms are cheap as dirt it is just the labor as you say to change it!!!!
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:21 PM
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Can I pull the A Arm out w/o dropping the entire front suspension? I really don't want to have to pull the Master Cylinder and undo all my brake line fittings. That is a really hateful job, and I JUST got it all put back together.

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post Mar 31 2009, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Mar 31 2009, 07:21 PM) *

Can I pull the A Arm out w/o dropping the entire front suspension?

Sure - done it...

either disconnect the strut from the ball joint or the ball joint from the A-arm. and pull the tie rod end. At that point, the A-arm is just held in its mounts.

You may have a challenge getting the torsion bar out if there's any bending - I really had to wail on one from California no less and there was no bending at all...
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post Mar 31 2009, 05:43 PM
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Yes. Loosen all the mounts remove the R.one on that side
Yank that A-arm and replace it. George is correct.
You should be able to pick one up inexpensive or free.
Let me know if you cant (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) there is pair on a 72 that is going to
the crusher I wasnt going to pull them but I will. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:10 PM
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Mar 31 2009, 06:47 PM) *

As you can see the flange on the A-Arm right behind the mounting point is buggered. Inverted. And it is pushing against the bushing and holding the mount out of location.

even with a BFH I was not able to knock the mount off the bushing.


The rubber is bonded to the mount and the arm and usually takes destructive heat to get them apart. If your observation is correct this does not need to be big job. The flange bends fairly easy. Take a flat punch and tap the flange back. Start where you can access it and work it back into position. The rubber may have taken a "set" making the bolt hard to get in. Remove the other bolt and get the missing one in first.
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:27 PM
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Yup, that arm be bent. Don't use it, it's garbage.
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:36 PM
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Zach,
Which side is it?
Do you have a sway bar?
I might have one...I threw out a bunch of them...I might have saved a decent one or two.
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post Mar 31 2009, 06:37 PM
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I've got Dr Evil searching through his contact to see if there is an a-arm local. If not, expect a desperate plea in the parts wanted forum. I;m not giving up hope. I still want to drive my car to Hershey on April 25. The good Dr should know one way or another by Thursday.

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post Mar 31 2009, 06:41 PM
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lemme know...I have a few..not sure what side, sway or not...

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post Mar 31 2009, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Mar 31 2009, 07:41 PM) *

lemme know...I have a few..not sure what side, sway or not...

Rich


Drivers side. Yes, I have a sway bar.

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post Mar 31 2009, 07:23 PM
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Odd but true.
I have two passenger side ones with the u-tab sitting on the shelf.
I must have thrown out the other ones...if they have any rust through, I chuck them at the scrap yard.

If you get in a bind, let me know..Rockets tree car has a pair..they are not bent...but I need to remove the one you need.

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post Mar 31 2009, 07:39 PM
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Zach,

I've got an extra driver side A-Arm. Only problem is that there tab that holds the ball joint is kind of messed up. The ball joint fit fine, this was not evident until I removed the ball joint. Pictures are a little blurry, but you can see what I'm talking about..

It's yours if you want for the cost to ship it to you from Oregon (97124). It does have the sway bar tab.


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post Mar 31 2009, 08:47 PM
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Zach,

If you're online, there's an Ebay auction for an A-arm ending in 17 minutes!

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post Mar 31 2009, 08:51 PM
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I might have 2 sitting around. Don't think I tossed them. I went with 911 arms. Let me know if you still need one and I'll look. It'll need a new ball joint. As I recall one had tab one didn't.
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post Mar 31 2009, 11:21 PM
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I discovered the same thing , in the same place on my recent buy. The mounting nutserts and the plate that they are mounted to are bent forward as if just like yours it had hit something while backing up , this bent it all forward cocking the arm bushing mount. Gonna figure out some way to bend the body mount back towards the back of the car. Any suggestions??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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