 Shifting issue..., Clutch is not working. |
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| bmtrnavsky |
 Apr 2 2009, 09:38 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Ok, I have a problem and I am not sure what the issue is. I was driving and everything was just fine when I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd and let the clutch out and there was nothing. I can freely shift the car without pressing the clutch at all. I can feel the gears changing, so it does not seem to be a shift linkage issue. When I press the clutch it feels dead like there is nothing there and the clutch is disengaged.
Any ideas thoughts or suggestions? |
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| SirAndy |
Apr 2 2009, 09:50 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Clutch tube broke lose. Do a search here, common problem ...
You'll need a welder! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Andy Wait, did you say disengaged? As in, the motor turns, but the wheels don't? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| bmtrnavsky |
Apr 2 2009, 10:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 2 2009, 08:50 PM)  Clutch tube broke lose. Do a search here, common problem ... You'll need a welder! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Andy Wait, did you say disengaged? As in, the motor turns, but the wheels don't? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) yes... I can shift, but nothing happens. the clutch pedal feels dead no pressure besides the pedal spring. with the engine running I can run it through all 5 gears. When it broke it didn't make a noise or anything and it still shifts smoothly, but it feels like the clutch is not engaging. You can pit it in first, rev the engine and there is nothing. |
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| Chris Hamilton |
Apr 2 2009, 10:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 5,687 |
The only thing I can think of that wouldn't make terrible noises is that you could have extended the pressure plate over center. I'd say get under the car and tell us what position the clutch fork is in and if you can move it.
edit: I just saw your other thread, is the car making noise or not? |
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| bmtrnavsky |
Apr 2 2009, 10:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Chris Hamilton @ Apr 2 2009, 09:27 PM) The only thing I can think of that wouldn't make terrible noises is that you could have extended the pressure plate over center. I'd say get under the car and tell us what position the clutch fork is in and if you can move it. edit: I just saw your other thread, is the car making noise or not? If that's the case, and it moves can I push it back into position and will it work again? If it does not move what do I do? Was this caused by my clutch being out of adjustment? Thanks for the help so far! |
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| Chris Hamilton |
Apr 2 2009, 10:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 5,687 |
If that's the problem you will most likely need a new pressure plate. First you'll need to get under there and figure it out.
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| bmtrnavsky |
Apr 2 2009, 10:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Chris Hamilton @ Apr 2 2009, 09:51 PM) If that's the problem you will most likely need a new pressure plate. First you'll need to get under there and figure it out. I'll have to get under it tomorrow after work... How much $$$$ to fix it? |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 3 2009, 10:43 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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It will cost you your soul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
New plates aren't that expensive. We'll figure it out tomorrow and let the world know what the issue was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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| maf914 |
Apr 3 2009, 02:44 PM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None
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Many, many years ago, when my car had only about 55k miles, my clutch failed. I was near home, less than a mile, when as I shifted up I felt a light thump through the clutch pedal. The clutch began slipping and although I could change gears no gear provided solid drive. I was able to drive very slowly home.
When I dropped and split the engine and tranny I found the diaphragm spring in the pressure plate had cracked radially. The pressure plate had lost it clamping ability as a result. I wonder if this could have happened to your clutch. |
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| 76-914 |
Apr 3 2009, 08:04 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,507 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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I agree. Sounds like collapsed pressure plate.
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| bmtrnavsky |
Apr 3 2009, 10:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 3 2009, 07:04 PM) I agree. Sounds like collapsed pressure plate. I guess we will all find out in the morning! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks for helping Jon! |
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| Dave_Darling |
Apr 4 2009, 12:33 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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How about a broken clutch pivot bushing? The plastic cup bushing that goes into the throwout arm and rides on the ball stud? If that fails, it could cause symptoms like that...
--DD |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 4 2009, 05:25 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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How about sheered CV bolts and no pins where they should be? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
Got a new input flange in and new CV bolts installed but he still needs the pins. I told him to call Eric and order up. I think he should also order some Porterfields while he's at it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Looks like he should havew a nice brake caliper set up but soso pads. |
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| bmtrnavsky |
Apr 4 2009, 05:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Apr 3 2009, 11:33 PM) How about a broken clutch pivot bushing? The plastic cup bushing that goes into the throwout arm and rides on the ball stud? If that fails, it could cause symptoms like that... --DD This issue is also resolved! Jon came over today and we discovered that I had sheared off all the bolts on the passenger side inboard CV joint. 4 new bolts and it is back on the road! Next week it gets the works on the break system! Thanks Jon! |
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