Anyone ever made a list of wires by color? |
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Anyone ever made a list of wires by color? |
type47 |
Apr 8 2009, 12:06 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have a rats nest to sort out and thought it would be useful to be able to look at a wire's color code and find the track and component. Anyone ever made a list? I started a list and made an excel sheet with color/stripe, track(s), and component categories.
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dbgriffith75 |
Apr 8 2009, 12:15 PM
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TheGrif Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 25-July 07 From: Iowa, USA Member No.: 7,945 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I don't know about a list, but here's a link to a thread that has another link in it for colorized wiring diagrams:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=74411 |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 8 2009, 12:16 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Careful. Lots of wires share the same color. Red, black, brown are all over the place.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 8 2009, 12:18 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
You could just refer to the color wiring diagrams in the factory shop manual, and available on the Pelican website and elsewhere. For a REAL MAN, that would be cheating, but I'll never tell.......... Less work, too, I think. The Cap'n
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SirAndy |
Apr 8 2009, 12:23 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,682 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a rats nest to sort out and thought it would be useful to be able to look at a wire's color code and find the track and component. Anyone ever made a list? I started a list and made an excel sheet with color/stripe, track(s), and component categories. Readily available, color diagrams were part of the shop manuals. Pelican Parts has them online here: http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914_electrical_diagrams.htm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy EDIT: The Cap'n beat me to it ... |
type47 |
Apr 8 2009, 02:43 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have the color wiring diagrams all printed out and grease/oil stained. It's just that when I'm under the dash and come across a "green/white" wire that terminates in a cut end, I'd like to be able to know the track of the current path and the component(s) it connects to so then I can go to the wiring diagram.
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jimkelly |
Apr 8 2009, 02:47 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
wires are not only color coded - they are also numbered - look closely
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type47 |
Apr 8 2009, 02:49 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Do you mean the gauge number of the wire?
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jim_hoyland |
Apr 8 2009, 03:05 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,323 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
While on the subject of color coded wire; what sources are there for them, i.e. Black/red Strip, etc ?
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SirAndy |
Apr 8 2009, 03:41 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,682 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I have the color wiring diagrams all printed out and grease/oil stained. It's just that when I'm under the dash and come across a "green/white" wire that terminates in a cut end, I'd like to be able to know the track of the current path and the component(s) it connects to so then I can go to the wiring diagram. I don't understand what problem you're having ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The colored factory shop manuals are easy to read and tracing a specific wire to it's source and destination is quick and easy. Can you elaborate on your actual problem? I'm confuzzled. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
r_towle |
Apr 8 2009, 04:19 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
my issue is that now that I am getting older I cant see anything with my head under the dash and my glasses up on top of the dash...
This just started and its beginning to piss me off. I get to close and its all a fuzzy mess of crap. Rich |
type47 |
Apr 8 2009, 08:30 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Can you elaborate on your actual problem? OK, so it's no real problem, it's just that if I find a wire in the harness I now know the color code of the wire. I'd like to be able to go right to the current track number(s) more quickly rather than look over the whole schematic to find the wire/current track. True that the schematic is only about 110 possible tracks and one could find the track in less than 5 minutes. I am working on a car where the harness has been cut in several places leaving just bare ended wires. |
6freak |
Apr 9 2009, 07:59 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have a schematics on the complete wiring system that are really big and easy to read and color keyed .but i cant remember who makes them i will have to give you the info Friday
Mike |
charliew |
Apr 9 2009, 09:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
40 is tough if you haven't needed glasses till then. I once new a real good pool shooter that had a real personality change when he had to adjust to glasses.
please post the source of the big schematics when you find it. |
6freak |
Apr 9 2009, 03:24 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
OK ..so i got them from a fella named .
Arthur Zapf...8514 Los Olivos dr... San Gabriel.Ca 91775..Thats what was in the car .Thats all it says on the envelope ..there mite be a web site on the other paper work.I will look tonite Mike |
zonedoubt |
Apr 9 2009, 05:45 PM
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ScottD914 |
Apr 9 2009, 07:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 27-December 07 From: New London, CT Member No.: 8,506 |
Show us what you've got in Excel. I made this up from my 74 harness after I removed it from the car:
Wire_Color_Scheme.xls ( 29.5k )
Number of downloads: 181
Hope it's of some use. I'm still on the fence about buying all the wire and making my own harness or working with what I pulled out. Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
JeffBowlsby |
Apr 9 2009, 08:38 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,537 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Show us what you've got in Excel. I made this up from my 74 harness after I removed it from the car: Wire_Color_Scheme.xls ( 29.5k ) Number of downloads: 181 Hope it's of some use. I'm still on the fence about buying all the wire and making my own harness or working with what I pulled out. Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Thanks Scott, really interesting. 45+ some odd wire sizes/color combos, about half are striped. You would need a minimum order of ~500LF of each specially striped wire and standard put up for solid colors is at least 100LF if not 250LF. Wire prices depend on gauge. If 25 of the wires average $60 each (the striped ones), and the 20 solid colors average $20 each, it would cost about $2000 for one harness, with lots left over, not including the other items needed to duplicate that chassis harness like casing, wire terminals and the dozens maybe a couple hundred hours needed to lay it out and make it just right. Some of the wire terminals are near impossible to find. I suggest its a better deal to find a good used harness, they can be found cheaply enough and they are not usually worn out like the engine bay harnesses are. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
SirAndy |
Apr 9 2009, 08:42 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,682 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I suggest its a better deal to find a good used harness, they can be found cheaply enough ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) A very good condition used, unmolested main car harness can be had for about $200 - $250 these days ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
type47 |
Apr 10 2009, 07:56 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Show us what you've got in Excel. It's a work in progress. wire_color_crossreference.xls ( 16k ) Number of downloads: 217 |
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