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| FourBlades |
 Jun 9 2009, 02:35 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin  Group: Members Posts: 2,055 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States 
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What order is best for installing these: Dash sheet metal Dash cap Dash lower pad Dash vinyl that goes up to windshield dash to windshield seal windshield anything else? What do you install on the dash sheet metal before putting it in the car? I put on the basketweave vinyl and wired all the switches and guages. What holds the climate control sliders to the dash? Thanks, John |
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 9 2009, 03:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(FourBlades @ Jun 9 2009, 12:35 PM)  What order is best for installing these: Dash sheet metal Dash cap Dash lower pad Dash vinyl that goes up to windshield dash to windshield seal windshield anything else? What do you install on the dash sheet metal before putting it in the car? I put on the basketweave vinyl and wired all the switches and guages. What holds the climate control sliders to the dash? Thanks, John I just recently had my project car painted so the windshield was out. The dash vinyl/foam was crap so I replaced it before the windshield went in. Much easier to do it with the glass out. Also replace the vinyl to windshield rubber at the base of the windshield while it's out it is simple. Once that is done the glass can go in. Dash cap/top pad can go in after no big deal. Hope this helps. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| McMark |
Jun 9 2009, 03:57 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
In this order:
Dash vinyl that goes up to windshield dash to windshield seal Dash cap Dash sheet metal into car windshield Dash lower pad |
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| sixaddict |
Jun 9 2009, 04:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 22-January 09 From: Panama City Beach, FL Member No.: 9,961 Region Association: South East States
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Would like to piggy back on this inquiry as I will be doing the same shortly .....unless the body shop maintains their current snail schedule......
Rubber seal at bottom >>>> Who is the best source considering price/ quality. Thanks TOT |
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| ahdoman |
Jun 9 2009, 04:32 PM
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It's phonetic...Ah-D-O-Man (Audioman) Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: 7-November 05 From: Santa Clarita, Ca. Member No.: 5,084 Region Association: Southern California |
Regarding the rubber seal at the bottom; the glass guy who did my windshield supplied it. It is not OEM but it might as well have been. Make sure you have him paint the black trim around the inside before he sets the windshiled.
In regards to the heater controls; no attachments on the dash. There is a bolt on the bulkhead that it bolts to. |
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| FourBlades |
Jun 9 2009, 05:03 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,055 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States
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Thanks for the help. I will take pictures of the process. I hope I wired the gauges and switches right...I used some photos that were on line and a wired up 71 dash TC gave me when I got the IMSA car. I plan to put a 5 amp fuse between the positive battery terminal and the harness before hooking it up so that the fuse will blow before any shorts I accidentally created melt my harness... John |
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| rfuerst911sc |
Jun 9 2009, 05:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(sixaddict @ Jun 9 2009, 02:25 PM) Would like to piggy back on this inquiry as I will be doing the same shortly .....unless the body shop maintains their current snail schedule...... Rubber seal at bottom >>>> Who is the best source considering price/ quality. Thanks TOT For rubber seal check the vendors section for Mikey914. I have purchased almost every seal he makes. Quality is excellent and price very reasonable. |
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| 914werke |
Jun 10 2009, 08:44 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,140 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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If your car was recently painted, especially a light color, dont forget to shoot some flat black around the the defrost vent holes as the factory did.
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| FourBlades |
Jun 10 2009, 10:01 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,055 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States
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Thanks for the tip about the vent holes. > Make sure you have him paint the black trim around the inside before he sets the windshiled. I am not sure what part is referred to here? Is this the inside border of the windshield, or the outside border? I have all the stuff to install the windshield myself. I gather there is some kind of primer to paint on the glass and a different kind on the metal where the butyl will go. Is this correct? Where do I get it? I have read various windshield install threads without quite getting the primer part. Thanks, John |
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| 914werke |
Jun 10 2009, 11:30 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,140 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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If your using Butyl again the Frit primer isnt necessary. If'n you going to use urathane (sp) adhesive then a special primer is required for the glass/body to promote adhesion
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| gothspeed |
Feb 5 2018, 09:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
Bumping this up, as I am getting the dash metal structure ready to reinstall. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I agree with this: 1. Dash vinyl that goes up to windshield (with .125" foam under) 2. Dash to windshield seal (standing by, ordered from 914 rubber and blacked out the area around defroster vents) 3. Dash cap (still needs dolling up) 4. Dash sheet metal into car this is where my questions are: Does the metal dash structure use rubber spacers at mounting studs? If so, what kind? Does the heater slider control face install behind the metal dash or is it mounted after dash is installed? When are the dash basket weave face plates installed? 5. Windshield 6. Dash lower pad Feel free to add any other tips to this list! |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 5 2018, 09:57 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,509 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 5 2018, 07:31 AM) Bumping this up, as I am getting the dash metal structure ready to reinstall. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I agree with this: 1. Dash vinyl that goes up to windshield (with .125" foam under) 2. Dash to windshield seal (standing by, ordered from 914 rubber and blacked out the area around defroster vents) 3. Dash cap (still needs dolling up) 4. Dash sheet metal into car this is where my questions are: Does the metal dash structure use rubber spacers at mounting studs? If so, what kind? Does the heater slider control face install behind the metal dash or is it mounted after dash is installed? When are the dash basket weave face plates installed? 5. Windshield 6. Dash lower pad Feel free to add any other tips to this list! Behind, although you can pull it thru the hole with a great deal of effort. There is a #6 bolt that attaches the rear of the unit to the bulkhead. Be sure to R&R the bulbs before you get too far.You can install those face trim pieces whenever. Don't forget the glove box door. It's a little easier to do that before the dash openings get covered up. And paint those vents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)  |
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| gothspeed |
Feb 5 2018, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 5 2018, 07:57 AM) QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 5 2018, 07:31 AM) Bumping this up, as I am getting the dash metal structure ready to reinstall. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I agree with this: 1. Dash vinyl that goes up to windshield (with .125" foam under) 2. Dash to windshield seal (standing by, ordered from 914 rubber and blacked out the area around defroster vents) 3. Dash cap (still needs dolling up) 4. Dash sheet metal into car this is where my questions are: Does the metal dash structure use rubber spacers at mounting studs? If so, what kind? Does the heater slider control face install behind the metal dash or is it mounted after dash is installed? When are the dash basket weave face plates installed? 5. Windshield 6. Dash lower pad Feel free to add any other tips to this list! Behind, although you can pull it thru the hole with a great deal of effort. There is a #6 bolt that attaches the rear of the unit to the bulkhead. Be sure to R&R the bulbs before you get too far.You can install those face trim pieces whenever. Don't forget the glove box door. It's a little easier to do that before the dash openings get covered up. And paint those vents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Thank you for reminding me about the glove box! I will get those parts together and possibly refinish the inside of the box itself. And yes, I have the vents painted and installed with new foam seals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) How about the metal dash mounting studs to the console/chassis? It seems like there should be some rubber or plastic isolators for vibration or squeeks? |
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| gothspeed |
Feb 6 2018, 06:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
Can anyone identify the mounting hardware for the metal dash structure? By number and what it is (rubber, washer, nut, floating nut etc.)
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| Mikey914 |
Feb 8 2018, 01:17 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,678 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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I have yet to remove the metal frame, but I'd bet Brad Mayer could shed some light on this. I thought it was a metal to metal contact, no rubber bushing, but I can't say for sure.
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| gothspeed |
Feb 9 2018, 10:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Feb 7 2018, 11:17 PM) I have yet to remove the metal frame, but I'd bet Brad Mayer could shed some light on this. I thought it was a metal to metal contact, no rubber bushing, but I can't say for sure. Thanks for posting! I don't recall if it was rubber isolation mounted when I removed it 5+years ago. But looking at some diagrams I though it might or should have (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Anyone else know if the metal dash sub structure has rubber isolation on mounting studs? |
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| 914werke |
Feb 9 2018, 08:14 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,140 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Feb 7 2018, 11:17 PM) I have yet to remove the metal frame, but I'd bet Brad Mayer could shed some light on this. I thought it was a metal to metal contact, no rubber bushing, but I can't say for sure. Yes the dash frame has simple rubber washers at 4 (I think) stud locations accessed from inside the cowl. Word of caution... Stretch first before tackling the removal of those nuts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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| gothspeed |
Feb 9 2018, 08:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rdauenhauer @ Feb 9 2018, 06:14 PM) QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Feb 7 2018, 11:17 PM) I have yet to remove the metal frame, but I'd bet Brad Mayer could shed some light on this. I thought it was a metal to metal contact, no rubber bushing, but I can't say for sure. Yes the dash frame has simple rubber washers at 4 (I think) stud locations accessed from inside the cowl. Word of caution... Stretch first before tackling the removal of those nuts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Thank you for the information! I am reinstalling the metal sub structure and because the studs were so long, I figured rubber washers or something had to be in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Edit: rubber isolation washers have been confirmed 100% under the metal dash structure to body. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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