UPDATE: NOT clutch or tranny... still need your help |
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UPDATE: NOT clutch or tranny... still need your help |
dflesburg |
Jun 14 2009, 03:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
pedal up and lots of pedal pressure but...
engine revs and nothing happens like its not in gear. I know its in gear because I can feel the gears with the shifter. the car responds like the clutch is pressed in all the time. The pedal is stiff as hell and the cable is tight. The bearing arm moves. But when I let the clutch out with the motor off and the car in gear, the car rolls . what could that be? |
914Sixer |
Jun 14 2009, 03:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,903 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
When was the last time your replaced the plastic ballcup in the release bearing arm?
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dflesburg |
Jun 14 2009, 04:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
release bearing arm has tension
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dkjens |
Jun 14 2009, 05:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 24-November 08 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 9,785 Region Association: None |
Check your CV joints, one may have let go. The driver side outer let go on mine and it felt exactly that way. When I took it apart I expected to find a pile of metal pieces, but everything was intact, including the cage. Somehow the cage had spun and allowed the axle to spin. The inner race had a nasty scar on one edge.
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messix |
Jun 14 2009, 05:19 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
pedal up and lots of pedal pressure but... engine revs and nothing happens like its not in gear. I know its in gear because I can feel the gears with the shifter. the car responds like the clutch is pressed in all the time. The pedal is stiff as hell and the cable is tight. The bearing arm moves. But when I let the clutch out with the motor off and the car in gear, the car rolls . what could that be? lots of things, the marcel could have broken. thats the center hub of the clutch. the input shaft of the tranny could have broke. the pinon shaft could be a goner. |
dflesburg |
Jun 14 2009, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
update:
pass side axle turns backward in reverse, forward in forward gears. so you know, this is a 914-6 conversion with 914-s stub axles... more help please... |
Millerwelds |
Jun 14 2009, 06:05 PM
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Pleepleus Group: Members Posts: 715 Joined: 24-June 08 From: Grass Valley, CA Member No.: 9,206 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm fairly new to all this but I just swapped out my clutch and transmission and went through those systems. It almost sounds like you have the clutch cable to tight and the release bearing is doing it's job even when you have the clutch pedal up. Assuming a six is like a four with the 901 trans in place you need about a 1/2 to 3/4 free play at the clutch pedal (grab the pedal and pull towards the driver seat). Unless it is something bigger that requires dropping the trans. Might as well losen the clutch cable first and see if that helps.
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dflesburg |
Jun 14 2009, 06:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
then why would the axle turn but not the wheel.
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messix |
Jun 14 2009, 06:08 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jun 14 2009, 06:08 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Because you have a busted CV joint, or the bolts that hold it tight to the stub axle ..........................
The Cap'n |
dflesburg |
Jun 14 2009, 06:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
cv joint
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Millerwelds |
Jun 14 2009, 06:52 PM
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Pleepleus Group: Members Posts: 715 Joined: 24-June 08 From: Grass Valley, CA Member No.: 9,206 Region Association: Northern California |
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dflesburg |
Jun 15 2009, 08:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
how about if all my bolts came loose holding my outer cv assembly...
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messix |
Jun 15 2009, 09:20 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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dflesburg |
Jun 15 2009, 09:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
laugh it up...
bet nobody ever told you that you have a few screws loose. |
messix |
Jun 15 2009, 09:27 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
nope.... a couple missing yes! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
locktight! |
Dr Evil |
Jun 15 2009, 10:39 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Your axle should NEVER move without the wheels moving.
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Joe Bob |
Jun 15 2009, 10:57 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
BTDT, left the Tee Shirt and walked home nekkid.....live and learn. CVs are designed to be the weak link. Cheaper than trannies or clutches....
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EdwardBlume |
Jun 16 2009, 12:05 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
I lost my half shaft doing 70 on 280! It sounded like popcorn though...
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