10" wide wheels on the rear of a stock fendered 914 |
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10" wide wheels on the rear of a stock fendered 914 |
513mugsy914 |
Jun 15 2009, 08:30 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 15-June 09 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 10,472 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So here is the big question...how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914? Spacers and lip rolling? I have been told many times that this can not be done. On ebay for the next 15 hours there is a stock fendered 914 with a v8 conversion from FL that has it done. He has told me that his wrench man has added stiffer springs and modified the koni struts out back for everything to work. So what does anyone have to say about this? Is it do-able or am I looking for trouble down the road?
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jun 15 2009, 08:55 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
So here is the big question...how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914? Spacers and lip rolling? I have been told many times that this can not be done. On ebay for the next 15 hours there is a stock fendered 914 with a v8 conversion from FL that has it done. He has told me that his wrench man has added stiffer springs and modified the koni struts out back for everything to work. So what does anyone have to say about this? Is it do-able or am I looking for trouble down the road? I don't want to be rash, but I'm gonna stick my neck out on this one. I don't believe it's possible to fit and use a 10" wide wheel inside the rear fenders of a stock bodied 914 without interference. It's kinda like fitting a gallon of beer into a 12 oz. bottle. I take that all back, maybe a 10" wide 8" wheel will fit .............. The Cap'n |
Spoke |
Jun 15 2009, 09:08 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,991 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I recently flared my 914 by pounding out the rear fenders to fit 8 inch rims. One of the measurements that I was making to be sure left and right fenders were the same was from the inner fender well to the fender. This measurement was like 11 inches with a lot of pounding.
I don't think the stock fender will give even 8 or 9 inches clearance. The only way to put 10in rims under a stock fender is to make sure the tires never go inside the fender cavity with by sitting the car higher and real stiff spring. Attached image(s) |
6freak |
Jun 15 2009, 09:12 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So here is the big question...how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914? Spacers and lip rolling? I have been told many times that this can not be done. On ebay for the next 15 hours there is a stock fendered 914 with a v8 conversion from FL that has it done. He has told me that his wrench man has added stiffer springs and modified the koni struts out back for everything to work. So what does anyone have to say about this? Is it do-able or am I looking for trouble down the road? Try it let use know what you find ..Then post pix and a vin # and you will me Golden.................AND (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
carr914 |
Jun 15 2009, 09:13 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,966 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Can't be done. I commented on that car last week, the wheels look wide, but. Of course he had to add stiffer springs - it has a V-8.
And you know he wants $25K right?. Buy a Factory 914-6 for that money and have something that is worth something. Here is a picture of my Flared car with a 15x9. I couldn't get a 10" Gotti under a Flared car T.C. |
6freak |
Jun 15 2009, 09:18 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
25K Holy chit that thing must be completey perfect in every way..Turn key ready to roll to the show and bring home 1st place
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carr914 |
Jun 15 2009, 09:32 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,966 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I see that he removed the $25K BuyItNow, but he said he has had offers above $18K
He also claims the Fuchs in Front are 9". they look like 7 or 8"s. Porsche did not make a Fuchs in a 10" Here are some pics. The rears do look wide, but look at his underside pic, how do they fit? T.C. |
computers4kids |
Jun 15 2009, 09:33 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
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513mugsy914 |
Jun 15 2009, 09:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 15-June 09 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 10,472 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I see that he removed the $25K BuyItNow, but he said he has had offers above $18K He also claims the Fuchs in Front are 9". they look like 7 or 8"s. Porsche did not make a Fuchs in a 10" Here are some pics. The rears do look wide, but look at his underside pic, how do they fit? T.C. The only thing that I can figure is that car is so stiffly sprung that it can not have any suspension. From the pics of the car, it looks like the tire fits right in there. I just don't want to get everything done and say that I can run those wide wheels, nd then on the track burn the paint right off the outside of the fender. I don't know I think a little more detective work might be in order here. |
carr914 |
Jun 15 2009, 10:50 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,966 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
It obviously has an undersized tire, but still I don't see how it can be done. It's not like the car is jacked-up like a 60's HotRod or tubbed out. Like I said I've got a 9" on the rear of my 914-6 Flared car and that's all it can take. I have 2 inches more room than he has.
T.C. |
mskala |
Jun 15 2009, 11:05 AM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
From carr914, it sure looks like the guy has 9" wheels in the rear. The tire is
skinny for that wheel, too. On my car for autocrossing I fit a tire that is a (edit 8.6") section width in there, with only pulling that you wouldn't be able to see. Of course, his 9" wheel is a ridiculously wrong offset, hence admitting to 'mods'. So apparently you can do it if all of the below are true: a. use narrow tire thus making a 9" wheel non-useful b. mod the trailing arm c. pull fender a bit d. run extremely stiff springs It would have been better and probably cheaper to widen a smaller fuchs to get the right offset, or just go with the 3-piece fuchs mods various people make. |
513mugsy914 |
Jun 15 2009, 11:33 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 15-June 09 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 10,472 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks for the info. I know lots about 911's but I am fresh when it comes to 914's.
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byndbad914 |
Jun 15 2009, 12:47 PM
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shoehorn and some butter - it fits Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Broomfield, CO Member No.: 5,463 Region Association: None |
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jtf914 |
Jun 15 2009, 12:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Burlington, CT Member No.: 58 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks for the info. I know lots about 911's but I am fresh when it comes to 914's. I can't tell from the underside pic, but wasn't there a guy on the old board (I think his name was Timo) who narrowed his trailing arms to fit wider wheels and tires under stock fenders??? |
jtf914 |
Jun 15 2009, 12:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Burlington, CT Member No.: 58 Region Association: North East States |
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SirAndy |
Jun 15 2009, 12:50 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,675 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
how do you go about fitting a 10" wide rear wheel on a stock fendered 914? You don't ... If you get 10" to fit on a "stock" car, it won't be "stock" anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Factory 7"/9" GT flares allow you to run 9" wide wheels (hence the name 9" flares). So you can imagine how much you'd have to stretch a stock fender to fit a 10" wheel. Good luck ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
6freak |
Jun 15 2009, 12:56 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I see that he removed the $25K BuyItNow, but he said he has had offers above $18K He also claims the Fuchs in Front are 9". they look like 7 or 8"s. Porsche did not make a Fuchs in a 10" Here are some pics. The rears do look wide, but look at his underside pic, how do they fit? T.C. Rockers and valance look silver in the underside pix and i only see 4 studs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ...but ya never know |
carr914 |
Jun 15 2009, 01:09 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,966 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for the info. I know lots about 911's but I am fresh when it comes to 914's. I can't tell from the underside pic, but wasn't there a guy on the old board (I think his name was Timo) who narrowed his trailing arms to fit wider wheels and tires under stock fenders??? He may have modified his Trailing arms, but it's not tubbed out, so the inner fender well wall would still be a problem. And if you look at the underside picture and then think that his wheels have an offset with that Deep of a dish, it just doesn't make sense. He couldn't have pulled the fender out that much. It's also possible that those wheels were put on for that set of pictures. I remember when I put my 10" Gottis on my old Flared car - it was only for pictures, I would have torn the flares & tires apart if I had ever drivin it. I have thought from the beginning that there was something fishy about this car - don't forget about the VIN# miscue T.C. |
SirAndy |
Jun 15 2009, 01:56 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,675 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I can't tell from the underside pic, but wasn't there a guy on the old board (I think his name was Timo) who narrowed his trailing arms to fit wider wheels and tires under stock fenders??? And how exactly would modifying the trailing arm help with the available space between the car body and the fender? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) A modified trailing arms will only move the wheel relative to the fender. It doesn't help with trying to squeeze a 10" wheel into a 8" opening ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
tat2dphreak |
Jun 15 2009, 02:14 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE It doesn't help with trying to squeeze a 10" wheel into a 8" opening ... can't blame a guy for trying tho, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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