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> 050 VS. 009, market value and type 4 compatibility
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:49 PM
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It’s easy to go to cb performance and buy a new 009 so we kinda know the price. the vw mags sell imitation 009s but i have had issues with these Kung Fu specials.

1 what is the going rate for a used 050?
2 anybody here got one?
3 between the 2 choices, which has the preferred curve for a type 4
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:51 PM
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The 009 has about 15 degrees of advance and the 050 has more - but can't remember how much more. The old school of thought that the 050 was a better choice than the 009.
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:54 PM
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Some would say that a stock dist. is best for carbs with vaccume pod plugged. But between the 009 & 050, I'd go with the 050 and electronic ignition.
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post Aug 5 2009, 01:27 PM
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050 is supposed to be better than 009... it doesn't retard the 3rd cylinder, either...

stock is better than either, and mallory is better still.. depending on how much advance you need.

I went with a 205AA 1.8 dizzy, it has the most advance of any stock one, which is what I needed for my cam. it was the only option for me besides the mallory
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post Aug 5 2009, 06:33 PM
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The 009 doesn't have enough advance. My last car came with the 009 and I could never get it to run right. I got a hold of an 050, had it curved for my 2056 and it was a HUGE difference. The 050 is better than the 009 but to really make it right you need to get it curved.
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post Aug 5 2009, 07:12 PM
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I have an 050 that I pulled off of my 2056. I upgraded to mallory. PM me if you are interested. My 2056 is a Raby, so I'm assuming it's curved already (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Aug 5 2009, 07:13 PM
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050 is the better choice between those two.
Even better is the Ljet distributor...

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post Aug 5 2009, 07:20 PM
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050/009 = 5.55555555

So, taking that into consideration the 050 is at least 5.5 times better than an 009.

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Damn Molloy, you should know that by now!
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post Aug 6 2009, 07:44 AM
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I keep hearing that the L-jet is the best distributor with carbs
are there more than 1 Ljet?

I put my Ljet distributor (not sure which one) on and the car ran crappy
should both vacuum be plugged when running the Ljet distributor?

I tried 2 djets, and a 009, and this one Ljet I have.... the 009 was the best of the lot but still crappy.

sorry for the thread hijack but need advice
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post Aug 6 2009, 07:51 AM
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there is more than 1 Ljet - 1 is similar to a djet dizzy, about 29 deg. of advance, the other was used part of '74 and has about 32

and if you aren't going to tap your carbs for vacuum, you have to plug the ports. vac. advance is nice to have, imo... I'm having my carbs drilled for advance. the vac. retard will still be plugged on a dizzy that has both.

remember to time it for total advance, too... the 009 will idle pretty decent, but it doesn't have enough total advance at 3200rpm...



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post Aug 6 2009, 08:39 AM
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The SVDA is a good alternate.

http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewprodu...eyword2=IGD0001
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post Aug 6 2009, 10:56 AM
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the 050 dizzy is not allways best...especially when you dont have one.
good L-Jet dizz is becoming more difficult to find. seems like D Jet diz is more abundant
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post Aug 6 2009, 11:06 AM
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John at Aircoold.net is a really good guy, knows his VW stuff, and stands behind his parts. He's been racing VW's for quite a while.

He's the other vendor (besides Jake) that I would buy from.

Save an L-Jet dizzy for L-jet engines. Buy a carb dizzy from John.

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post Aug 6 2009, 11:18 AM
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I have not heard of using the SVDA for a type 4.

I can't agree more with buying from John tho... whenI didn't know what I needed, john will answer and help me figure out the order. good guy, top notch service.
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post Aug 7 2009, 12:29 PM
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isnt "aircooled.net" a Raby enterprise?
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post Aug 7 2009, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Aug 7 2009, 01:29 PM) *

isnt "aircooled.net" a Raby enterprise?


no

type4store is Jake's
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post Aug 7 2009, 01:06 PM
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Does anybody happen to know the total advance of that SVDA?
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post Aug 7 2009, 01:07 PM
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I looked for that myself, but lost intrest before I found the answer... damn ADD
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post Aug 7 2009, 01:30 PM
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Call John and ask. Tell him that there are a lot of 914's with carbs and that we need a certain amount of advance. One of his options may work or maybe he needs to respring his dizzy for us.

At that price, a properly tuned 914 carb dizzy would be a real nice item that works better than the usual 050 or 009.
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post Aug 7 2009, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(kwales @ Aug 7 2009, 02:30 PM) *

Call John and ask. Tell him that there are a lot of 914's with carbs and that we need a certain amount of advance. One of his options may work or maybe he needs to respring his dizzy for us.

At that price, a properly tuned 914 carb dizzy would be a real nice item that works better than the usual 050 or 009.



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esp. since the 050 is damn near a myth it's so non-existant. and the mallory is $330 with the vac. advance, and the 009 is code for POS
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