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> Shock questions-Bilstein or KYB?, What shocks are you using?
jcambo7
post Feb 10 2010, 01:00 AM
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I am wondering if Bilstein's are adjustable or not. A question for people that AX and drive their AX cars on the street-What shocks would you reccomend that are adjustable to use on road and during AX's?
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post Feb 10 2010, 04:57 AM
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I'm no shock expert but here's what I think I know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .
1. KYB = Kill Your Back they are basically junk.
2.Boge are/were OEM and not bad but not adjustable.
3.Bilstein are excellent quality but not adjustable. You can send them back to Bilstein and for a fee they will custom valve for your particuliar car setup. They are height adjustable by moving spring perches on adjustable clips.
4. Koni are also excellent quality and are adjustable but if we're talking rear shocks to adjust them they have to be removed from the car each time to adjust.
5. Aftermarket there are all kinds of specialty shocks that can be purchased with external adjustable knobs.

Hope this helps.
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post Feb 10 2010, 08:05 AM
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Bilstein's are a great balence between sports and comfort. I have 'em on all my cars.
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post Feb 10 2010, 08:41 AM
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I've got Bilsteins on all 4 corners. The rears have adjustable spring perches and Rebel Racing make a coil over that increases the adjustability of the spring perch. http://www.rebelracingproducts.com/Suspension/Steering.html
I like the shocks and the car handles great. I must say that I also have Elephant Bushings and mono balls and I think the bushing really help improve the ride.
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post Feb 10 2010, 08:46 AM
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I have bilsteins on all of my cars. They are the best. (the only problem is affordability. They are a keep your car forever shock.
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post Feb 10 2010, 08:53 AM
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Another place to buy rear adjustable spring kit : http://www.ground-control-store.com/produc...ption.php/II=76
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post Feb 10 2010, 09:47 AM
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Decisions, decisions... they're both great!

No wait... one of them is crap. I won't mention any names but the initials KYB come to mind.

Bilsteins, Koni or new Boge Sports.
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post Feb 10 2010, 09:49 AM
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but if we're talking rear shocks to adjust them they have to be removed from the car each time to adjust.


Wachootalkin bout? Those are old Konis'. New ones have the adjustable shaft front and rear.
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:00 AM
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Buy Koni's. Bilstiens are to stiff for the street and they wont wear out so I will be using these until I get more disposable money to waste and replace them with Koni's.

Eric,
No I have not...but I swear I will this week...just need to hit the USPS when its open..

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post Feb 10 2010, 10:02 AM
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The Bilsteins are a certainly easier on the back. Avoid KYB.

My 911 had them when I bought it. They won't last as long and are harsh to boot.

I have had Bilstein Sport inserts on the front now for years (911 struts). I like 'em better than the standard inserts they replaced. I run the adjustable-gas Koni's in the rear.

Between tire pressures and the shock adjustment in the rear, you should be able to tune your handling 'pretty fine'.

Good Luck
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post Feb 10 2010, 11:28 AM
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I have bilsteins on 2 of my cars. My V8 donor car from Army Dude came with these KYB (made in Japan). They have an adjustable spring kit on them. I wonder if this kit will fit on a new Biilstein. The threaded tube is an almost tight fit over the shock body. It feels like there is a rubber O-ring or something holding them from sliding easily off.

This will go on my V8 blue car with the 930 trans



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post Feb 10 2010, 11:32 AM
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some people don't have the money you have Eric. (they are also a lot younger and can take the hard ride!!!!)



QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 10 2010, 08:47 AM) *

Decisions, decisions... they're both great!

No wait... one of them is crap. I won't mention any names but the initials KYB come to mind.

Bilsteins, Koni or new Boge Sports.
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post Feb 10 2010, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(SGB @ Feb 10 2010, 06:05 AM) *

Bilstein's are a great balence between sports and comfort. I have 'em on all my cars.


Agree! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) A normal thread..
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post Feb 10 2010, 01:38 PM
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No I have not...but I swear I will this week...just need to hit the USPS when its open..


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif) No worries.
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post Feb 10 2010, 02:12 PM
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I have Bilstein sport on the /6 street car and Koni sports on the track car. The Koni Yellow Sport front's are adjustable with a knob at the top of the stem. The rears will have Koni spring perches that are adjustable with a special (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Koni wrench ($16 I think). I haven't tried it yet, but it appears that the rears are ajustable with the knob without removing the shocks.

The Bilsteins on the street car were good for the street and track, but I liked the Koni Yellows Sports better for my application on the track. I think they can be made a little more agressive ... at a cost though.

My Koni Yellow Sport Rears
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post Feb 10 2010, 02:50 PM
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So I see a bunch of people debating Koni and Bilstein. I drive a 914-4 1974 and need to replace my shocks. I am looking at 95% of my driving being on the street, so I don't need the super stiff shocks.... What do you guys recommend?
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post Feb 10 2010, 02:58 PM
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If ya want comfort, stay with OEM. Mildly spirited, bilstein.
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post Feb 10 2010, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Feb 10 2010, 12:58 PM) *

If ya want comfort, stay with OEM. Mildly spirited, bilstein.



I havent driven my car yet and have Bilstein on all fours. I noticed it looked a little stiff in the back, does this change after being driven a bit?
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post Feb 10 2010, 03:24 PM
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Hope not. Stiff is why I bought em! Just remember, stiffers gonna mean rougher ride.
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post Feb 10 2010, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(vsg914 @ Feb 10 2010, 01:24 PM) *

Hope not. Stiff is why I bought em! Just remember, stiffers gonna mean rougher ride.



I'm sure it'll change a bit, since when I trailered it before, it had no engine/tranny in it.
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